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JADobson

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11-21-2014 08:27 PM

Hi Lumberjocks,
My parents just moved into a new smaller house and my mom is looking for a way to get more space out of her kitchen. We had an idea to put a shelf above the island. She is fine with shelf brackets but I think it would look better if I could put up a shelf without any visible hardware. But I can’t think of anyway of doing it. Anyone have any ideas? Here is a photo of the space:

-- James


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#1 posted 11-21-2014 08:31 PM

Use french cleats and have the shelf cover them. The shelf will need some thickness to keep it from sagging, use that thickness to hide cleat system.

-- Chris K

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#2 posted 11-21-2014 08:32 PM

what Chris said. Thick is funky and useful. Basically a torsion box hanging on cleats…

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#3 posted 11-21-2014 08:46 PM

French cleat is a great idea. Unfortunately she wants the shelf to be 3/4” thick. I’m worried that is too thin and the shelf will sag. The distance between the two walls is 56”. I’m thinking I should talk her into an 1 1/2” shelf. Could probably do a French cleat with that. I’ll see what she thinks. Thanks guys.

-- James

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#4 posted 11-21-2014 08:58 PM

You could get a thin metal wire and secure to the ceiling and to top of shelf, I know it may not be the most eye pleasing. Build a rectangle box and secure it to the ceiling and or walls. You could have 2 sections on the shelf with a divider in the middle for support.

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#5 posted 11-21-2014 09:38 PM

http://www.woodbin.com/calcs/sagulator.htm

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#6 posted 11-21-2014 09:45 PM

You could have 2 sections on the shelf with a divider in the middle for support.

- JerrodMcCrary

This seems like a good idea. If you didn’t want to have a full divider above the shelf, you could have, say, balusters, or profiled uprights in the center of the shelf, front and rear. If you wanted to, you could put half balusters front and rear against the wall, as well, with no shelf hardware necessary, hanging the shelf from the ceiling. You’d still have to have a way to keep the shelf from swaying. A few well placed pins in the ballusters should do the trick. ..Just thinkin’.

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#7 posted 11-21-2014 09:53 PM



French cleat is a great idea. Unfortunately she wants the shelf to be 3/4” thick. I m worried that is too thin and the shelf will sag. The distance between the two walls is 56”. I m thinking I should talk her into an 1 1/2” shelf. Could probably do a French cleat with that. I ll see what she thinks. Thanks guys.

- JADobson

I agree with the cleat system. And tell your mom she has to make a decision. Does she want you to do it right, or does she want an ugly shelf that will sag. I think that is the bottom line.

Another thing about a shelf. What is going to be stored on the shelf and how would you keep it from falling off the back side…or front side for that matter?Think it over thoroughly.

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#8 posted 11-21-2014 09:54 PM

How ‘bout put an open frame on the side away from the kitchen, made to look like a stair railing. She’d still be able to see through it. And you’d be able to attach the upper frame to the ceiling. ( make the frame with you know, fancy uprights like these, and you’d probably only need 3 or 4 to look nice )

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#9 posted 11-21-2014 09:59 PM

Thanks for the ideas guys. I talked her into making the shelf thicker so I think the French cleat will work. That will give the look I’m going for.

-- James

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