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11-17-2014 05:19 PM

This may have been asked before but I don’t remember seeing it posted. Who, or what, determines what projects get into the top 15? Who, or what, determines what projects get into the top 3? Is it view count or is there someone on high who determines how they are rated? Just curious.

-- David www.TheBoardSMITH.com


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#1 posted 11-17-2014 05:57 PM

Yes it has been discussed many times. It seems to be a secret formula taking into account views, number of comments and times favorited. There may be a few other factors but I do think it is all automated.

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#2 posted 11-17-2014 07:47 PM

It is a algorithm based on number of views, number of comments and times favorited, it’s all computer based, heavily weighted to the number of favorites. There is no judging on subjective factors such as merit or beauty or talent. This pisses some people off no end, but think of how many would be pissed if there were a panel of humans judging on such subjective criteria. Projects that make the top 3 are usually shop projects as people tend to favorite those, good photography helps as well as showing and explaining some of the construction as that stimulates conversation and comments.

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#3 posted 11-17-2014 11:06 PM

Astrology may also be involved, and tea leaves, and chicken bones too.

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fibreglass trees. http://thecanadianschooloffrenchmarquetry.com/

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#4 posted 11-17-2014 11:06 PM

Oops!

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fibreglass trees. http://thecanadianschooloffrenchmarquetry.com/

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#5 posted 11-18-2014 12:37 AM

Astrology, tea leaves, chicken bones? I was leaning towards a little voodoo myself after some of the projects I have seen.

-- David www.TheBoardSMITH.com

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#6 posted 11-18-2014 05:18 AM

This is a little off from what you are asking.

I noticed that when you click on one of the “Daily Top 15” it goes to the LJ’s Home Page whose Project it is, and is usually noted 0n there as one of the “Daily Top Three” for ONE particular day. When you click on that “Daily Top Three” on his page it takes you to the “Daily Top Three” for that particular day.

Only One Problem! (That I Checked Thoroughly) There WILL BE anywhere from SIX To TWELVE “Daily Top Three” Projects for that SAME DAY!

Could this be a result of our New “Area” Time Posting Method? Something that got “Fixed” that (In my opinion only) Didn’t need “Fixed”? So much for the “Prestige” of being in the “Daily Top Three”!

I did Six of them, just to make sure. Three are below with the particulars on them.

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What Next! OH! That ”Announcement” on the “All Forums Page”. It doesn’t go to the ”Kitchen Design Page” as stated anymore. It goes to ”WomansForum.com” (One of Escalates Other Clients) and a page full of Coupons that you’re suppose to be able to Download. I tried to download some. NOPE!

-- Hope Everyone Is Doing Well! .... Best Regards: Rick

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#7 posted 11-18-2014 12:07 PM

Rick,

I don’t think that “Daily Top Three on day X” means “One of the top three for day X”. I think that it means “Appeared in the top three at some point during day X”. There could be many of these as they shuffle in and out of the top spots.

-- “Big man, pig man, ha ha, charade you are.” ― R. Waters

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#8 posted 11-18-2014 01:14 PM

Chuck:

Maybe, but if you look at the last one shown above, (Oct 2). All (11) NOW show on Their Home Page, as being one of the “Daily Top Three” on Oct 2.

I know what you are saying about shuffling in and out of the Top Three Spot (I Think …LOL..) and I think it might have something to do with this New Time Set Thing. With the Old Way there was only 3 in the “Daily Top Three”, for any given day.

From Memory I THINK there was also a Category shown as “Daily Top Three” with only Three Projects in it. It seems to have been replaced by “Top 15” projects. A “Daily Top Three” Ongoing List is still there but they are ALL of the “Daily Top Three”, Hundreds/Thousands, ALL Of Them!

To get to All of the above “Daily Top Three”, I had to go to one of them on the LJ Members Page from the “Top 15” and click on His “Daily Top Three” Heading to get to the “Daily Top Three” Category as shown above.

The Blank Spaces you see (2) in the last one, at the bottom, was the beginning of the “Daily Top Three” for Oct 3rd. The 2 blank spaces at the Top was the end of the Daily “Top Three” for Oct 1st.

Not the least bit confusing is it!!! ..... LOL….

Regards: Rick

EDIT: I went back to the “Daily Top Three” List and started at Nov 16th. to see what they showed on the Members Page (As Below). Another Little ”Kink” was also found. Some of them on the List were shown as a Day Before and some where shown as a Day After but they were on the Members Page as “Daily Top Three” Nov.16th.

Now. If I can figure out how to show these side by side a Miracle has just occurred …LOL..

DAMN!! Couldn’t do it. They wanted to run into each other! Enough Already !

-- Hope Everyone Is Doing Well! .... Best Regards: Rick

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#9 posted 11-18-2014 01:25 PM

Well, I hesitate to say anything negative but at the risk of being fussed at I will.

I am highly disappointed in the woodworking sites I visit and the “Top 15” is a prime example of the disappointments. I would expect those “Top 15” to be projects which would be a little on the difficult side and cause the reader to search for how the project was designed and created. Instead, some of the projects, like the last set of cutting boards with inset handles, showed little creativity and was something that could be banged out in a short while, looking more like a high school woodshop projects. I was hoping for projects which showed creativity, advance planning and talent but most miss that mark by a wide margin.

I apologize for offending anyone if I did. But the “Top 15” misses the mark and a lot of the advice given here on LJ is either dangerous or so far off that it should be avoided.

-- David www.TheBoardSMITH.com

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#10 posted 11-18-2014 01:46 PM

David,

You might be interested in the most-discussed (has the most comments) project in all of LJ history:
http://lumberjocks.com/projects/39545

Hurray for simplicity!

-- “Big man, pig man, ha ha, charade you are.” ― R. Waters

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#11 posted 11-18-2014 02:11 PM

If I got this right, to get into the “daily” spots project is in the running for 24 hours when posted, based on # views, # comments and # favorite. That seems OK to me but add one more detail. Today is Nov. 18th, top 15 would be from Nov. 17th postings. Current top 15 would be changed to “in the running for top 15”. Would be based on the same (number views, comments, likes) but time would run from midnight to midnight on the date. Maybe even add a top for week, month or even year. With some sort of award for top for the year. Imagine, a framed certificate stating “lumberjocks.com project of the year”!

As for the above comment, (boardSMITH) I’m not a professional woodworker. I am a hobbyist. I make simple and complex projects but I put my heart and soul into each one and take pride in my work. If my fellow wood workers take the time to view, favorite or comment on them then I am happy. They noticed the pride I put into my work. IMO. If my project makes the top 3 or top 15 I feel I deserve it based on reactions from fellow members not the complexity of the project.

I guess the wedge would get the project of the year award, a gag post gone very bad.

-- We all make mistakes, the trick is to fix it in a way thats says "I meant to do that".

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#12 posted 11-18-2014 02:21 PM



David,

You might be interested in the most-discussed (has the most comments) project in all of LJ history:
http://lumberjocks.com/projects/39545

Hurray for simplicity!

- ChuckV

That is absolutely Amazing Chuck!! One Piece of 2xSomething! Simplicity is to Complex a word for it! ...LOL..

Thanks for Posting That!

Rick

-- Hope Everyone Is Doing Well! .... Best Regards: Rick

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#13 posted 11-18-2014 02:21 PM

Yup, the daily top 3 just means you hit it within 24 hours after being posted. I don’t follow it all that closely, but the other day I had one that hit #1, and I noticed that another project hit the top 3 in the last 5 minutes is was eligible. One reason the listing is like this is so it doesn’t matter when you post the project.

I’ve had a few projects that have hit the top 3, but the one that hit #1 was, by no means, my best project, but it was a gift idea posted in the fall before Christmas, so it got favorited a lot because other folks, I assume, wanted to remember it as a gift idea.

Some of the real masterpieces on here don’t get as many favorites b/c other Jocks don’t aspire to make them.

I hardly ever favorite something because I admire it, but usually because I want to remember it for a future project.

-- "Man is the only animal which devours his own, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor." ~Thomas Jefferson

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#14 posted 11-18-2014 02:42 PM

Maybe just rename it to “Top Traffic Projects” as that’s more what it is…

Each project is eligible for a 24-hour period of time starting from when they’re initially posted. That means that a project could reach top 3 at the 22hr mark, and then it gets removed 2hrs later. That’s why there’s more than 3 “Daily Top 3” projects for any given day.

Sounds to me like BoardSMITH is looking more for a mechanism for competition rather than a recognition. On computer modding sites that I participate on, they have a “Mod of the Month” competition, which is a collection of nominated project work logs in progress that’s selected by forum staff, then there’s an open vote by members. Multi-vote system (can vote for more than 1 option, but can only vote once).

-- Mos - Twin Cities, MN - http://www.youtube.com/MosquitoMods - http://www.TheModsquito.com

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#15 posted 11-18-2014 04:20 PM

Thanks for the replies. I knew there was some sort of a mechanism but didn’t know how to figure it out.

Mosquito – No I am not looking for a competition over recognition but I do appreciate quality work and craftsmanship.

I do wish they would create a parade of projects and let the all show up in the “Top 15” and have a place in the sun if even only for a few minutes. Using a computer model to choose takes away from the projects.

-- David www.TheBoardSMITH.com

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