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dakremer

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11-16-2014 03:07 PM

Topic tags/keywords: miter saw

Hey guys. Looking to buy my first miter saw. Just bought a new house and it has a double wide and double deep garage (pole barn). The back half is going to be my new shop! (pics to come)....

I have some projects coming up, and the miter saw I borrowed from my brother-in-law is horribly inaccurate.

Wondering your thoughts on Miter Saws? I am a serious hobby/DIY woodworker. Going to be doing some fine woodworking and construction grade stuff. I also want it to be a permanent fixture in my future shop

For my house….. It’ll be helping me make cabinets, trim work, doors, drawers, built-ins, etc

For my hobby…..it’ll be helping me make all my cross cuts – fine woodworking and construction…

I’m looking to spend in the $200-300 range. I have a Lowes, Menards, Home Depot, and Acme Tools in my available travel distance. Looking for a sliding miter saw (I think). Accuracy is most important to me.

Any advice, thoughts?

-- Hey you dang woodchucks, quit chucking my wood!!!!


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waho6o9

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#1 posted 11-16-2014 03:22 PM

Harbor freight has a cost effective miter saw and with shipping you’ll be ahead of
the game.

It’s a gamble for sure and just might be worth it.

I use a Ryobi for job site work and it works just fine. Stay with a 10” blade
and you’ll make some nice furniture.

Or go high end and get a Kapex. Just a though…...

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dakremer

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#2 posted 11-16-2014 03:28 PM

ha! I wish I could afford a Festool. Maybe they’ll read this forum and take pity on me, and send me a free miter saw :)

-- Hey you dang woodchucks, quit chucking my wood!!!!

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#3 posted 11-16-2014 03:29 PM

LOL

The ol Ryobi works okay and you may need a shooting board and a hand plane to
achieve high end furniture results. Good luck on your choice.

YMMV

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#4 posted 11-16-2014 03:35 PM

I looked at them all. Was leaning towards the Hitachi 12” slider. I liked it because of the way it slides, it can sit close to a wall. But at that time money was tight(er than it is now), and on the weekend I told myself was the deadline to make a decision, Lowes put the 12” Dewalt (non-slider) on sale.
The price was too good to pass up. Have been using it for about a year and a half and even though I THOUGHT I needed a slider, I’m not so sure that I really did. In the event I need to cut wider boards, I have my RAS

My 2 cents … YMMV

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#5 posted 11-16-2014 03:36 PM

there is a disconnect in what you want you want and what you say you want to spend . if accuracy is number 1 then -well that is something else .But you will most likely find what you need in that price range . have you considered craiglist – you can purchase a great saw for much less then new . My work saw has up until recently been a non sliding double bevel 12” dewalt [ tend to use my Kapex a bit more ].The double bevel is an extra you do not have to have . If you run good blades 12” saw can be very accurate .12” blade will miter a 2×6 . I like this saw ,good line of sight and i can read all the numbers .
If you get a cheap slider odds of accuracy go down . Look at the saws ,see what you like ,imagine what you will use it for and how you will use it .Oh and buy or make a table .Your saw is only half the equation .The set-up is very important for accuracy speed and safety .

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tyvekboy

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#6 posted 11-16-2014 03:39 PM

What I advise those who are looking to buy a miter saw is:

1—Get a 12” Miter Saw. Don’t limit yourself by the limits of your saw.
2—Single bevel is fine for most. Double bevel is nice … but I don’t use the bevel feature on my single bevel model … so why get double bevel?
3—Get a saw that has an adjustable and plate like the DeWalt miter saws have. I believe the BOSCH articulated saw has it …. that’s the one I’d get if I could bear to part with the $700.

Trying to square the fence to the blade is just too painful. Squaring the blade to the fence is a lot easier. The DeWalt adjustable knotched plate allows you to square the blade to the fence.

4— If you want to cut wider boards with a miter saw, then you might want to get a sliding miter saw. Again, I think if I were to get a slider, I’d get the 12 inch BOSCH articulated saw.

I personally believe that the DeWalt miter saws are a reasonable buy for the average woodworker without sacrificing accuracy… especially for one who is going to do home improvement projects like decks, or framing.

I do a lot of cut-to-length operations on my miter saw. Especially for long boards.

However, since I built my table saw crosscut sled, I find myself using that more. Of course the miter saw is good for cutting angles on ends of small pieces of boards which I don’t do with my crosscut sled.

In buying any tool, it’s always better to spend more on a good tool than buying a cheap tool. In the end you’ll end up buying the better tool and end up spending more than you would have buying the more expensive tool in the first place. You get what you pay for.

Hope this helps.

-- Tyvekboy -- Marietta, GA ………….. one can never be too organized

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JoeinGa

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#7 posted 11-16-2014 03:52 PM

Also, if you dont think you’ll be able to build a miter saw extension table any time soon, but one (or two) of these. They come in very handy for holding up the other end of a long piece while cutting.

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dakremer

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#8 posted 11-16-2014 03:59 PM

Thanks for the advice guys!

Anyone out there that owns the saw in the $200-300 range that is happy with the accuracy?

-- Hey you dang woodchucks, quit chucking my wood!!!!

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#9 posted 11-16-2014 04:07 PM

Recently I’ve been seeing some Hitachi sliding miter saws on CL (C10FSH I believe). The prices looked reasonable, and I have been using the same saw professionally for over 10 years now. Accuracy is excellent, fence is adjustable, and I think the 10” blade is a plus. I don’t want to have to buy 12” blades, I’ve got plenty of 10” ones I have sharpened. The saw was $600 new, and I’ve seen some for $200. It’s got a lazer, I use mine to get close only.

As for a table, this is what I do when I take it to customers homes- a pair of saw horses with an 8’ 2×10 or 12 on top, then take a piece of ply or whatever and screw that into both ends of the plank where a straight edge tells you the height of the table is. Hope this helps.

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#10 posted 11-16-2014 04:16 PM

I have an old (1996) Delta 10” Compound miter saw.
It’s accurate, made of cast iron, and plenty strong.
If I were replacing it, the short comings I’d want to address are:
1. can’t cross cut more than 5 1/2”.
2. can’t cut a 4×4 without the motor housing banging into the top of the wood.
3. needs a good light on the cutting area.
4. throws dust and chips everywhere.

I fear a 12” saw will not be as accurate due to blade flex.
I fear a 12” slider will exaggerate that accuracy problem.
Most of the sliders have a lot of wasted space behind them.

What I decided on was a Mikita 10” hypoid drive double rail slider.
It has two sets of short glide rails so not so much overhung load and mounts closer to the wall.
The hypoid drive puts the motor up on about a 75 degree angle so it’s out of the way.
And, I get to keep my 10” blades.

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Jim Jakosh

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#11 posted 11-16-2014 05:15 PM

I have a Makita 10” compound slider and I love it. I have looked at a lot of the new saws and find some of them difficult to move or adjust. I think they are making a lot of them out of cheaper materials and the machining in China is not as clean and accurate on the lower priced ones..Get a good one right away, Doug, so you are disappointed with its performance and have to rebuy it.

If you can, try them out either at a friends shop or where they sell them. Check out all the adjustment options to see how easy or hard they are to work with.

Some times you will find a good old one that is for sale in the paper or an Craigslist where an old woodworker is getting out of the business. There you can find a good quality tool that probably was well taken care of.

Good luck, Doc!!.........................Jim

-- Jim Jakosh.....Practical Wood Products...........Learn something new every day!! Variety is the Spice of Life!!

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#12 posted 11-16-2014 05:15 PM

I used an old grill to mount my miter saw. I have since added roller to the end of the grill that will slide out for better support of longer lumber.

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#13 posted 11-16-2014 05:26 PM

For your projects that require a bit of accuracy a
hand saw should be considered as well.
For 30.00 it’s well worth it.

http://desmoines.craigslist.org/tls/4763060215.html

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dakremer

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#14 posted 11-16-2014 06:40 PM

So I decided I wanted a 10 inch sliding saw, but realized I didn’t need one. After reading lots of reviews, I went with the DeWalt 10” DW713.

-- Hey you dang woodchucks, quit chucking my wood!!!!

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dakremer

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#15 posted 11-16-2014 06:42 PM

Thanks for everyone’s help

Oh yeah, I got the saw for $219 which was at the lower end of my price range

-- Hey you dang woodchucks, quit chucking my wood!!!!

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