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Forum topic by rantingrich posted 11-16-2014 12:15 PM 1250 views 1 time favorited 13 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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11-16-2014 12:15 PM

Topic tags/keywords: mortise drill press

I have a new Dewalt router on the way and was thinking… Some use a Plunge router to make Mortises. But some use a Mortise jig. Which do you prefer?

If you have the capability to do both, i.e. have a plunge router and a mortise/drill set up, what do you prefer? and why

-- Rich


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Fred Hargis

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#1 posted 11-16-2014 12:50 PM

I prefer the router over a mortising chisel. The cuts are smoother, requiring less cleanup. The Mortise Pal jig makes the setup simple as well. I also have a Leigh M&T, I really like it when I’m doing integral tenons but it’s good for frame pieces. Best part of the FMT is it’s very simple to use, especially compared to something like the D4 DT jig. I’ve tried thew drilling and clean out method, and for me that took a little too long. I’m never in a hurry with my stuff, but that was about appealing as sanding.

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#2 posted 11-16-2014 10:10 PM

I have a Delta mortiser that I modified with an X-Y table and self-adjusting Bessey hold down clamps. Works great, and the rack and pinion X-Y table makes it very quick. Also much quieter than a router.

I started a thread on that somewhere around here.

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#3 posted 11-17-2014 12:30 AM

I’m with Fred on the Mortise Pal. IMO it works great and is very easy to set up and use which makes for fast work. I also have a Jet benchtop mortiser and bought the MP to replace the Jet. The hold down on the Jet is a POS IMO. I polished and sharpened the chisels to the best of my ability and still the hold down didn’t really do the job to my satisfaction. YMMV

-- Art

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#4 posted 11-17-2014 03:10 AM

I made and used J.Thien's mortising jig for a coffee table build and found it to be excellent. You replace two of the baseplate mounting screws on the router with longer screws, which hold nylon spacers protruding from the bottom of the baseplate. These spacers ride in routed slots in the jig (bottom, “outer” slots in first picture. The “middle” slot in the center of the jig is the mortise routed into the jig, and you can see exactly where your mortise will end up, exactly below that opening). Never had to worry about the router slipping in one direction or the other or ending up with a mortise too long or short, and it costs about nothing to make. All parts available in the nuts and bolts section of the hardware store. Nothing but good things to say about it.

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#5 posted 11-17-2014 03:15 AM

I actually use the pantorouter as shown on Matthias Wandell site. Works great!!

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#6 posted 11-17-2014 03:42 AM

i have used the Mortise Pal for years and use it extensively. I ended up selling the Powermatic Mortiser I had since i never used it anymore.

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#7 posted 11-17-2014 03:57 AM

I use the Powermatic 719 hollow chisel mortise. The mustard color is very soothing. There is still cleanup at the bottom of the mortise that I clean up with a chisel and a mallet. The x-y table works well for repeat mortises as it has stops. For a one off mortise I drill and clean with chisel. For stopped mortises I use my table mounted router with a benchdog router lift. I’m spoiled. :)

-- Tom - Measure twice cut once. Then measure again. Curse. Fudge.

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#8 posted 11-17-2014 04:08 AM

Click for details

That’s what I use.

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#9 posted 11-17-2014 04:21 AM

I like a hollow chisel mortise best. I use routers for so many tasks, but not usually for mortising. Good call on the Dewalt.

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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#10 posted 11-17-2014 08:31 PM

Why would you need to clean up the bottoms of mortises made with a hollow chisel? They aren’t going to show, are they? And I prefer not to have the tenon go all the way to the bottom of the mortise anyhow. Leaves space for excess glue.

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Fred Hargis

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#11 posted 11-17-2014 08:37 PM

If you are referring to what I said, it isn’t the bottoms but the sides that need a little tuning. So, to answer your question: you don’t need to clean the bottoms.

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#12 posted 11-18-2014 01:51 AM

Yes, I was. I find the sides very adequately smooth if I set my mortiser up properly. Mainly, this means the chisel needs to be square to the table. This is tricky to do with the narrow chisels, so I use a spring clamp to hold a straightedge (a stick, or whatever) to the face of the chisel, which makes it easy to square it by eye.

-- I admit to being an adrenaline junky; fortunately, I'm very easily frightened

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#13 posted 11-18-2014 02:00 AM

I’m compulsive so I clean up the bottom of mortises after I use my hollow mortise chisel. Therapy would be more costly. :)

-- Tom - Measure twice cut once. Then measure again. Curse. Fudge.

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