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11-16-2014 12:48 AM

Any advice on shop heat. My wife and I are both wimps about the cold. We are in our first cold front, dips to 30 at night, 50 in the day. Not nearly as bad as our friends to the north, but too cold for us. In fact, we are inclined to close the shop down below 55 degrees.

So just today I finally got my overhead roll up door installed, it works great and better it keeps cold air out.

So with the doors closed, I think we could do a space heater like this: http://www.homedepot.com/p/Dyna-Glo-Delux-100K-125K-BTU-Forced-Air-Kerosene-Portable-Heater-KFA125DGD/202922767?MERCH=REC-_-NavPLPHorizontal1_rr-_-NA-_-202922767-_-N

Obviously I am concerned about fires and such. I obviously do not believe we could spray lacquers with this heater since lacquers can ignite. Does anyone have any thoughts on this subject. It is concerning because we are in a dusty environment.

At the end of the day, if I feel it is not safe I will not use it and just deal with the cold.

Any ideas?

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#1 posted 11-16-2014 12:59 AM

I have a similar heater. A very large torpedo heater. Keeps me toasty and I’ve never had any fire issues. Just be smart. (Don’t aim it at your lumber rack) that being said they are very loud. Mines large like I said but is about as loud as my table saw. After a while in the shop the fumes can become an issue as well. But I’ve used mine without incident for about 8 years now. I will be upgrading to a woodstove as I got one for free but the torpedo heater does the job

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#2 posted 11-16-2014 01:01 AM

Jerry,
I personally do not like those heaters as they are direct fired meaning the products of combustion (Carbon Monoxide) directly into your space. We are no longer are allowed to use direct fired equipment on most of our construction projects.
I would suggest a simple electric space heater, clean, efficient and lower first cost. Use the money you save to buy insulation and caulking.
Bob

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#3 posted 11-16-2014 01:01 AM

I have a wood stove in my shop, but I am don’t have a spray unit, so don’t spray anything. I use all the scraps from over the spring, summer and fall to fire up the stove, and have aux wood outside on standby if I need it. Gets my shop up to 65ºF, which is comfy for working.

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#4 posted 11-16-2014 01:03 AM

Double Post Sorry

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#5 posted 11-16-2014 01:09 AM

Thanks for the input guys. I smaller electric efficient space heater may be the better option as it seems safer. And yes, we are saving our dimes to get insulation, I hope to hire a contractor to spray foam insulation into the walls. Well that is another subject.

After starting this thread, I realized this subject has likely been over done many times, so I have been reading other heating threads also.

Thanks again fellas. Jerry

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#6 posted 11-16-2014 01:12 AM

Hi Jerry,
Since no one else has jumped in I would like to welcome you to the Wimp Club.

When I still had the cabinet shop I would use a propane space heater to warm the shop in the morning
with the doors down,it would warm the cabinets and the lacquer we were going to spray.

Then I would shut it down when it got to about 75 and and get to work, it work for me.

Buy the way it would be around 25 to 28 at the time.

Best of luck,
Rick

PS: We would blow the shop out before finishing.

-- I'll bulid your dream,you tear it down.

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#7 posted 11-16-2014 01:16 AM

Opps!
Didn’t see the other reply’s.

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#8 posted 11-16-2014 01:21 AM

I use a heater just like that one in my shop. It works very well for me. With the govt requirements on diesel these days, I use diesel. The old diesel smelled and probably smoked a bit. The new stuff is as clean and a lot cheaper than kerosene. I think your shop is large. The part of mine that I heat is only 1200 sq. ft. This heater works very well. Probably the next cheaper thing you can do is a heat pump. Your part of the country works well with a heat pump I believe. They are not cheap but the gas heaters that are rated for shops uses a LOT of fuel. I saw a semi truck load of those go for $50 each at an auction. Might watch your sources. I do use a carbon monoxide detector with my Kerosene heater and there has never been a problem except for the sawdust getting in the detector.

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#9 posted 11-16-2014 01:23 AM

Thanks Rick, I appreciate the input. I will check that out. So you are from CA. I spent 4 years in the Navy in San Diego, it was some really good times. I look forward to future advice and input as it sounds like you have really good past experience doing what we love to do. Our shop is really small, just my wife and I. I use a few guys on a part time or as needed basis here and there. But for a small shop, we tend to do more than our fair share of projects.

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#10 posted 11-16-2014 01:25 AM

Thanks Grandpa, as usual you have some great insight on the subject. I hope things are going good for you and hopefully you are staying busy and warm…

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#11 posted 11-16-2014 01:41 AM

Your shop wiring and equipment should comply with Article 500 of the National Electric Code. Class I for finish spraying operations and Class II for the combustible dust. Generally speaking, most of the issues I worked on were mitigated by installing the equipment outside the hazardous area; ie, general purpose lights above a lens lighting a spray booth or general purpose heater blowing heat in from a nonhazardous location.

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#12 posted 11-16-2014 01:51 AM


Thanks Rick, I appreciate the input. I will check that out. So you are from CA. I spent 4 years in the Navy in San Diego, it was some really good times. I look forward to future advice and input as it sounds like you have really good past experience doing what we love to do. Our shop is really small, just my wife and I. I use a few guys on a part time or as needed basis here and there. But for a small shop, we tend to do more than our fair share of projects.

- Jerry

More than welcome,

My shop was only a two man shop, 1800 sq ft.

I live northern Cal about an hour from SF, funny my wife family still lives in SD.

I now work in a shop in a town called Sebastopol
with 18 people, I just do design work now , I’m too old to work in the shop anymore.
But I still kept a lot of my tools for my home shop, now I get make things I want to make.
How long have you lived in the great state of Texas?
Rick

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#13 posted 11-16-2014 02:12 AM

We moved to Texas in 2007, moved here from FL. Being from south FL we are more used to warmer weather. Though it is not all that bad here in San Antonio. In fact, since moving here in 2007, we have not made it back home to FL. But this December we booked our family flights to go back and show our young girls where their parents lived for many years. Our oldest girl is born Floridian, our younger girl is born Texan! We are looking forward to the trip and hope to catch a football game while visiting.

So you know all about the life of a small shop. It can be challenging. I look forward to getting to know you better.

I have visited San Fran in the past, that can get a bit colder in the winter as I recall.

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#14 posted 11-16-2014 02:45 AM

I hear ya,
I was born in Sebastopol in the 60s lived and worked all over the US never made it back to FL, but when I was a kid the folks did take me through Texas to meet some kinfolk, I remember it was way too hot for me.;-)

FWIW: I never got to serve, I had bad wheels , even when I tried they didn’t want me :-(

I want to thank you for your sacrifice, for me and my family.
Maybe wood is the way for us to go. :-)

As far as some foot ball, try Candlestick park in January it’s not human!!!

-- I'll bulid your dream,you tear it down.

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#15 posted 11-16-2014 02:58 AM

Depending on the size of your shop, you could go with something like this
http://www.amazon.com/000-BTU-Conditioner-Electric-Heat/dp/B005JG0PTQ/ref=sr_1_4?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1416106543&sr=1-4&keywords=with+heat

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