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Forum topic by soapmaker posted 11-12-2014 10:37 PM 864 views 0 times favorited 8 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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11-12-2014 10:37 PM

I see now that I was horribly mistaken to think that reviewing the experience of going to a website and finding something completely different than what I was expecting would go in reviews. Obvious square peg round hole in hindsight. In response to the mob I wish I had not mentioned it at all, but that doesn’t make my feelings on the subject any less true, not right or wrong, just true.

I do not agree that a store who in its name and self description proclaims to be woodwork related should diversify into totally unrelated territory. I do not see that as a way to stay in business. A business operates within a set of parameters that if you go too far away from the chance for failure increases. I prefer building upon your foundation with new and interesting products that are in some way related. Exercise equipment is not it, nor is the furniture they are also selling. It takes time, money and real estate away from your loyal customers when you overextend your reach. This is not limited to this one store, many chains do this, and even some brands do this with their products. As an example you have big orange home centers with a few aisles of soap and paper towels and air freshener, I am not against these products. But what did they have to remove to fit that in there? I didn’t notice the store being expanded to accommodate these things, so something that one used to buy there is now unavailable. I cannot imagine anyone who goes there to buy these things and then ends up buying tools or materials to remodel the kitchen to match said paper towels. It is convenient if you need these things and you can get it while your there. A few years back Ryobi had a digital camera that took their tek4 battery pack. I never used it, it may have been an awesome camera, a wonder of a product in every way. Do you think they sold enough of them to recoup their investment? I don’t have the answer, maybe they did. Not from the ones in the clearance bin.

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#1 posted 11-12-2014 10:43 PM

The failure of product and/or product placement are all too common. I want the businesses and companies I enjoy to thrive, to allow continued enjoyment. If a fast food franchise decides to sell shoes in addition to hamburgers I will not be “pleased that they are able to diversify.” It would require space to store these shoes, it would require personnel to fit the shoes, and it would require feet to be without shoes during fitting. I think this would not result in a “business being able to stay open with a new expanding customer base.” I would predict this as the last throes of a business on its way out. This is only for my fast food example not my original inquire.

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#2 posted 11-12-2014 10:58 PM

The views and opinions of the above are not the views and opinions of anyone. These ideas will not be implemented by force. Anyone opposed can do so in a friendly manner as no one has forced you (to the best of our knowledge) to read or discuss these issues. You may now return to your regularly scheduled programming

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#3 posted 11-13-2014 02:38 AM

I too found it odd when I first saw Woodcraft selling non-woodworking items but the truth is that I really don’t care. There are far too many more important things to occupy my brain. As for the review, my uncle used to say, “If you rub anything long enough, you’ll rub a hole in it.” The negative reactions aren’t necessarily about your viewpoint or your review of a website but a long running frustration with people posting reviews that some consider inappropriate. For example: There are many reviews giving 5 stars to a product literally just unboxed. Or 1 star to a product that was misused or the purchaser misunderstood. There are reviews that seem more like advertisements (shilling). As time goes on, these things ‘rub a hole’ in people’s patience, it takes less and less to aggravate them. I’m not saying anyone is right or wrong, not advocating one view or another, but hopefully providing context for why there were negative reactions to your general commentary which was not a review.


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#4 posted 11-13-2014 03:46 AM

As far as the review of a web site who cares, people start their own threads and call it a Forum, it just really doesn’t matter anymore, you post where ever you feel like, everyone else seems to be.

Companies do what the feel they need to do to survive or if they get enough requests then they make a change. I personally buy cleaning goods from HD so I like it. As far as WoodCraft, they are probably just trying to survive.

-- Bill - "Freedom flies in your heart like an Eagle" Audie Murphy

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#5 posted 11-13-2014 05:15 AM

Yeah, what’s up with Woodcraft. It just makes it so confusing when I’m distracted by stuff I’m not interested in. It’s like the other day, I went to the IGA store. Good lord, there was candles and magazines and band-aids and birthday cards and napkins and so many non-grocery items it made my head spin. Hell, they even had soap if you can imagine that. That does it, I’m done with the IGA store if I have to look at all that stuff when all I’m interested in is a 6-pack of beer and a Slim-Jim.

-- Visualize whirled peas

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#6 posted 11-13-2014 05:52 AM

It takes time, money and real estate away from your loyal customers .

I’ll bet the owners of Woodcraft and every other business who diversify are smiling all the way to the bank…......

-- mike...............

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#7 posted 11-13-2014 06:29 AM

It takes time, money and real estate away from your loyal customers .

I ll bet the owners of Woodcraft and every other business who diversify are smiling all the way to the bank…......

- redryder

Good point that most don’t consider…successful stores do not give up profitable square footage on a whim. They diversify to increase profits and shield themselves from losses especially in niche markets and no doubt Woodcraft is a very niche market. What size town does it take to support a Woodcraft? All the times I have been to multiple Woodcraft stores I was the only one in the store 90% of the time other times two or less. I would also say those that have been at the store fit two categories: retired or upper middle class white males.

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#8 posted 11-13-2014 12:05 PM

Amazon should have stuck with just selling books.

-- “And the products of wealth push you along on the bow wave of their spiritless undying selves.” ― I. Anderson

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