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Forum topic by JayG46 posted 11-09-2014 10:13 PM 978 views 0 times favorited 6 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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JayG46

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11-09-2014 10:13 PM

Topic tags/keywords: outdoor furniture paint cypress cedar

I’m preparing a quote for a client for an outdoor bar and bar stools. The top will be granite and they would like the rest of the unit and the stools to be painted white. It will be in a mostly shady area but will receive a limited amount of direct sunlight.

Even though it will all be painted, I’m assuming it would still be wise to use a rot resistant wood such as cedar or cypress to ensure longevity. Is this correct in your experience? Are there issues with painting either of those types of wood?

As far as the paint is concerned, my research so far says that priming is definitely necessary and that oil based paints are going to be the most durable. My tentative plan right now is to use some big box products like Zinsser 1-2-3 and Rustoleum.

Has anyone else been down this road and figured out a good way to paint wooden furniture for outdoor use?

Thanks in advance for any insights you can provide.

-- Jay Gargiulo, Naples, FL www.swallowtailwoodcraft.com "Once you understand the way broadly, you can see it in all things."- Miyamoto Musashi


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#1 posted 11-18-2014 07:33 AM

Select or Better cypress, western red cedar, mahogany and teak are all good choices depending on cost and availability in your area. I am not an advocate of water based products and use only oil as long as I am able to get it as the EPA wants to screw that up. I use California Paint products only and have had excellent results.

I would suggest you stay away from the big box stores and deal with a local paint store. You will pay a little more but you get what you pay for. Do not use Sherwin-Williams as I have found it does not last. By the way, Sherwin-Williams owns Minwax and that to me is trash.

-- Respectfully, Paul

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#2 posted 11-18-2014 01:52 PM

I have found milk paint to be a very durable outdoor paint, no primer needed.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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jmartel

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#3 posted 11-18-2014 04:41 PM

White Oak is also good for outdoor use. I believe Douglas Fir would be as well, but the good stuff isn’t cheap.

-- The quality of one's woodworking is directly related to the amount of flannel worn.

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#4 posted 11-18-2014 07:32 PM


Select or Better cypress, western red cedar, mahogany and teak are all good choices depending on cost and availability in your area. I am not an advocate of water based products and use only oil as long as I am able to get it as the EPA wants to screw that up. I use California Paint products only and have had excellent results.

I would suggest you stay away from the big box stores and deal with a local paint store. You will pay a little more but you get what you pay for. Do not use Sherwin-Williams as I have found it does not last. By the way, Sherwin-Williams owns Minwax and that to me is trash.

- pjones46

I see that you are in Florida? If so, cypress would be the way to go. As for even the remotest possibility of painting mahogany or teak…all I can do is SMH

-- paxorion

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#5 posted 11-18-2014 07:39 PM

Being from the Texas coast I know cypress. Cypress is great but it actually lasts longer if you don’t paint it , it will dry out and last for a long time without rotting. Use a sealer not paint. Redwood is also an option

-- "The pursuit of perfection often yields excellence"

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JayG46

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#6 posted 11-19-2014 01:17 AM

Thanks for the input, folks. Its been a while since I posted this and I have actually started this project already. I chose 8/4 select cypress mostly for the availability and price (roughly $3/bf).

Here are some pictures of the stools. I was going for a sort of modern/minimalist look.

pjones46 – Thanks for the tip on Sherwin Williams. That was going to be my next choice but not in light of your comments.

oltexasboy1 – I would strongly prefer not to paint them, but the client wants everything white.

-- Jay Gargiulo, Naples, FL www.swallowtailwoodcraft.com "Once you understand the way broadly, you can see it in all things."- Miyamoto Musashi

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