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Forum topic by pwk5017 posted 11-07-2014 09:49 PM 943 views 0 times favorited 11 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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pwk5017

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11-07-2014 09:49 PM

I picked up a grizzly GO441 cyclone off craigslist for $700 this week, and I am pumped to get it in place. The guy partially assembled it, but never used it. I currently have it in three main pieces, the cyclone body and impeller housing, the motor and impeller, and the filter. Unfortunately, I am vertically challenged in my basement shop. I have 85” to the bottom of the joists, 94.5-95” to the bottom of the subfloor. Thankfully, the collection drum can be reduced by 10” by taking off an extender ring. I can also trim a few inches off the flexible hose connecting the drum to the cyclone body. This leaves me with a total height of 94”, which means I need to sneak the motor up between the joists to have .5-1” to spare. The motor is not light(maybe 100lbs?) and the cyclone body isn’t light either(also about 100lbs) and together they are too much for me and my 5’-2” girlfriend. I need to stand the cyclone body upright and then bolt the motor to the top of it, but I am at a loss for how I can then lift the whole thing up a few feet for me to build a wood stand for it to rest on. The measurements are so tight, that I don’t think assembling it horizontally and then tilting it up will work. I will hit the subfloor before it goes full 90 degrees. Any bright ideas on how to do this safely and effectively would be most appreciated.

Patrick


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azgaragedude

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#1 posted 11-08-2014 04:11 AM

I’m no engineer but that sure looks tight! I’m sure you will figure it out and have one super dust collection.

Honey “whats this hump in the kitchen floor”?

-- AzGarageDude

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TopamaxSurvivor

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#2 posted 11-08-2014 06:54 AM

Temporarily hand it from the joists and build the stand around and under it.

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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Fred Hargis

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#3 posted 11-08-2014 12:57 PM

Here’s how I did it: a hydraulic lift platform (ignore that yellow POS sitting on it). I bought mine for about $170 (HF) but I suspect you could rent one (maybe). In any case, you may have to take it down for maintenance (blown cap or such) so it would be handy to have. Mine has been up/down on the bracket 7-8 times, including one complete move. You would still have to get it onto the lift, no small feat; I used an engine hoist for that. But that way does make it a one person job. Otherwise, several stout buddies and a cazse of beer (for afterward).

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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buildingmonkey

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#4 posted 11-08-2014 05:31 PM

I bought that same hydraulic lift cart to move projects around and lift them off and onto my work table. Got mine when they had a sale going on, forgot the price, but very good. You have to stop into the store to find when they have a tent sale, sometimes those carts are on the sale. They don’t seem to advertise the tent sales, but that is the best time to buy.

-- Jim from Kansas

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SCOTSMAN

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#5 posted 11-08-2014 07:36 PM

A few years back, I purchased from England an old industrial heavy duty pillar drill made by the Elliot Machine company.It stands about seven foot tall or more. and I had to do the same as you have done with your high dust collector. I removed a piece of light tongue and groove in a square about twelve inches by twelve from the over lain ceiling. It was only due to this that I was able to fit it under the roofspace between beams and even then it just makes it under the roof space . I added a couple of cross dwangs to recover roof strength and it has worked fine ever since .Warnings though this thing is not for the fainhearted and weighs a lot it comes with a geared head for speed control without changing belts in fact it does not have belts.. I think you will be ok if you take your time and maybe get help setting it up .It looks good on paper to me as is. Kindest regards Alistair

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

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Fred Hargis

3935 posts in 1956 days


#6 posted 11-08-2014 10:05 PM

Just noticed the ”.5-1” to spare” part. You might wnat to check, that may not be enough room for the motor fan to draw in air (I think it’s TEFC with the fan on the end). I was told to allow 2”, but that was from Oneida whom I believe doesn’t know chit about anything.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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buildingmonkey

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#7 posted 11-11-2014 08:24 PM

So, do you have it up yet? When I installed mine the first time, it leaked between the blower and the cyclone. This caused it to push dust into the filter. I took it down and discovered the leak, cleaned it up and used silicone to seal between the blower and cyclone, now I hardly get ANY dust in the filter. I used furnace tape to seal all the other fittings as well, but HUGE improvement. Also used the oversize filter from Wynn.

-- Jim from Kansas

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pwk5017

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#8 posted 11-23-2014 11:34 PM


Well, a few weeks and a couple failed attempts later and it’s up! Thanks to Fred for the hydraulic cart tip. That was what I ended up going with. Searched craigslist and came up with the same HF cart for $40. Tipped the cyclone and motor up onto the cart and simply jacked it up into place. I have about 1.5-2” of space above the motor, and about a half inch of clearance for the barrel lid to be lifted off the barrel. Now onto running the ductwork and working again. I haven’t used any of my stationary power tools since selling my other dust collector. I’m going through withdrawal

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ElChe

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#9 posted 11-24-2014 01:41 AM

Love that hydraulic cart. It is now on my XMAS list. I brought some brawny friends and manhandled my Oneida cyclone in place. Pizza and beer did the trick in terms of compensation. And cigars. There was a lot of cussing involved.

-- Tom - Measure twice cut once. Then measure again. Curse. Fudge.

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timbertailor

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#10 posted 11-24-2014 05:40 AM

Now THAT is a proper dust collection system.

Congratulations on getting her installed.

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Fred Hargis

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#11 posted 11-24-2014 12:08 PM

Congrats, well done. You’ll find that cart has a multitude of uses….keep it handy.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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