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11-05-2014 11:42 PM

Topic tags/keywords: tablesaw question

I just found this on C/L and am thinking about going for it for $150 since it has the cast iron extensions instead of the pressed steel , What do you Guys think ?
The add says 1/2 HP but the tag on the motor in the photo says 2 HP so it should be able to handle some good size wood. My Father had one almost exactly the same as this for years and we never had any problems with it , just wondering about getting parts for it now if I needed them , I know Delta and Rockwell were kind of joined at the hip so to speak and I have heard a lot of issues with people getting Delta Parts lately. Also was hoping I could just do a bolt on change to a newer fence for it as that was about the only complaint on our old one but it wasent really to bad just had to check it once in a while.

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/tls/4744683847.html

Also found this one with the pressed steel extensions for $245 but it shows 1.5 HP on the motor
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/tls/4742245369.html


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#1 posted 11-06-2014 12:10 AM

These saws are not made any more so in doubt you can get parts anyway. The plus is that there are plenty of these saws out there so secondhand parts should be available. Did you look at the aperage, if you are planning on running it on a 120v line hope you have a beffy circuit breaker and good wiring. I would advise you run it at 220 in otherwords. Its a great saw as you know and with cast iron wings its an even better deal at $150.

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#2 posted 11-06-2014 12:23 AM

If it is reasonably quiet and smooth, I’d be all over it. I suspect that’s a replacement motor but it’s a good name and dual voltage.

Check the up/down and tilt mechanisms for range of motion. You may have to do some alignment work and some cleaning but it’s a proven performer and I think the innards are compatible with the Delta 34-xxx series saws.

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#3 posted 11-06-2014 12:37 AM

Motor alone is worth half that price.. I’d be all over it. If you wind up not liking it, you can always resell it for what you paid.. clean it up a bit and you might even be able to get a little more.

Cheers,
Brad

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#4 posted 11-06-2014 01:33 AM

Thanks guys I think you have confirmed my thoughts on buying it. I will check the tilt and rise adjustments and take a good square with me to check the blade alignment.
David No 220V right now but I have a 20 amp single outlet that is about 30 ft from the panel I can use for it and if that’s not good I have a 30amp outlet about 10 ft away that I can use as long as no one is using the dryer in the laundry.
Now I just have to call him and let him know I won’t be able to pick it up until Sat when my neighorbor gets back with his truck.

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#5 posted 11-06-2014 02:08 AM

!Cast iron tables are a little work to keep up; but worth it! Paste wax the table and you will love it.

-- just rjR

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#6 posted 11-06-2014 08:31 AM

I’m confused. Your dryer runs off a 30 amp 110v. circuit? Hmmm. Anyhow, your 20 amp 110v circuit will be marginal, at best, with a motor that draws 20.4 amps. If the 30 amp circuit really is 110v., that’s the one you’ll need to use.

220 is better with a motor of that size, if you can get it.

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#7 posted 11-06-2014 01:40 PM

Each leg is 110 bringing it up to 220 – not the entire circuit.

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#8 posted 11-06-2014 03:01 PM

I have one of those. Pretty much count on it being out of square, but, that can be adjusted later.
Mine, still has that dreadful fence, but I can make it work.
There are many improvements like the link belt, installing studs where the works bolts to the underside of the table, and other mods that help. The best improvement would be a better fence in my experience.
I have had mine for over 20yrs, not much can really go wrong with the saw. I would install new bearings though.

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#9 posted 11-06-2014 03:54 PM



I m confused. Your dryer runs off a 30 amp 110v. circuit? Hmmm. Anyhow, your 20 amp 110v circuit will be marginal, at best, with a motor that draws 20.4 amps. If the 30 amp circuit really is 110v., that s the one you ll need to use.

220 is better with a motor of that size, if you can get it.

- runswithscissors


It is a Gas Dryer so the only thing that uses the 110V is the blower. No idea why they have a 30 amp line there but it is there.

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#10 posted 11-06-2014 07:12 PM

Well i just got an e-mail from the Lady who has the saw and she is willing to hold on to it and let me pick it up late Sunday afternoon as she is going to be out of town till Sat. and my neighorbor is good with Sunday as well to pick it useing his truck so I am good to go for it. Now I just have to clean up a space to store it since it willl stay in my living room when it’s not being used. (No Wife to complain about tools in the Livingroom :) )

I will post some pictures when I get it home and start cleaning it up and adjusting it. I am proably going to reach in and clean the gears and pullys check the bearings and belt and then fire it up and see what kind of a deal I got. If everything else is good I fore see a link belt going it very soon as well.

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#11 posted 11-06-2014 07:40 PM

Did you get the first or second one?

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#12 posted 11-06-2014 09:29 PM

I am getting the first one , it looks like it needs a little more cleanup than the other one but for the price I think I can deal with that plus it has all castiron wings instead of stamped like the 2nd one. I already have brass brushes and 800 grit wet/dry sandpaper and WD40 and evaporust and Johnsons Paste Wax so I am good to go for the cleanup.
I will try to document the cleanup and adjustment as well as I can.

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#13 posted 11-10-2014 06:57 PM

Well there was a problem setting up the time to pickup the saw so I am without the use of a truck now for a month but the lady says she can deliver it but not until Friday evening. Now I need to line up a couple of Strong Backs to help unload and move it. At least it is on good sized casters.
Also found we have an unused 220 volt 30 amp Dryer outlet in the laundry room , now I just need to wire up a pigtail to go from the dryer outlet to a regular 220 plug for the saw and get a new plug and rewire the motor and find a 220V extension cord that won’t break the bank , those things are expensive for a good 10G cord.
Another To Do List and I don’t even have the saw yet.

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#14 posted 11-10-2014 08:15 PM

You probably won’t need a 10G extension cord, especially if you your run is relatively short. 220v motors generally pull less amps, you can get some 14g cords from HD or Lowes, attach the plugs and you should be good to go.

I wonder if you could not switch out the plug and receptacles, looking at 14g extension cords at HD they are insulated for 300v and have capacity for 15a. Maybe someone with more electrical experience can chime in. Otherwise you can buy electrical cords from HD by the foot.

Also, if the setup is anything like the Craftsman contractor saw, the saw can be broken down easily if you are not able to find help. The table is heavy, but without wings it should be able to be carried by one person.

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#15 posted 11-10-2014 09:58 PM

David , I can’t change the receptacle because it is in an apartment building so I will have to go the pigtail route if I am going to use the 220V for it. I already have a good 12G cord but I don’t want to cut that one up. I might go for a 12g cord and put the newplugs on that since I just don’t trust 14G that much , it would sure be cheaper than 10G cords. I will have me and at least one other neighobor to unload it and maybe her husband as well so I should be good to go for that. Also I don’t want to have to remove the cast iron wings unless I really have too since getting them back on and flat to the table can take a lot of work. I can start with the 110 V and then get the other stuff when I can. I have some other expenses right now that have to be dealt with on a higher priorty than the saw.

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