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Dabcan

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10-29-2014 02:52 PM

Topic tags/keywords: random orbit sander ros dewalt festool vibration low dust extraction

My Dewalt ROS is starting to make some funny noises and the velcro pad is toast. I’m thinking of keeping it as a backup/rough work and buying something new for my finishing needs.

I’m looking for something with lower vibration, good dust collection is always nice, and excellent quality. I’m leaning towards the Festool ETS 125, but there are few reviews on this model (I’ve seen two on lumberjocks only). Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

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pintodeluxe

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#1 posted 10-29-2014 03:24 PM

Velcro pads for Dewalt sanders are available in stock at Home Depot. I bought a Bosch ROS20VS thinking I would like it better, but I have gone back to using the Dewalt because it is more powerful. The Bosch leaks dust out the canister o-ring pretty bad, so you still need to use a shop vac. Most sanders have excellent dust collection with a vacuum attached.

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waho6o9

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#2 posted 10-29-2014 03:34 PM

http://festoolownersgroup.com/unread/

HTH

You have a nice Etsy store Dabcan.

The thing about Festool is the consumables last a long time and some don’t take that
into account and only look at price.

The low vibration and good dust extraction make Festool sanders a wise investment.
It’s difficult to get a better sander than the ETS 125 for finishing work. :)

Try one out and if you don’t like it you can return it within 30 days for a refund.
http://www.bobmarinosbesttools.com/5-random-orbit-sander-ets-125-t-loc/p/571817/
“The versatile ETS 125 has our finest sanding stroke at 5/64” (2.0 mm), and is the ideal one-handed machine for maximum surface quality when finishing or pre-sanding. Compact in size and weighing only 2.4 lbs., the ETS 125 is perfect for sanding vertical surfaces and for doing overhead work. Technical features such as the sanding pad brake and Vibration-stop balancing put the ETS 125 in a category of its own. ”

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#3 posted 10-29-2014 03:48 PM

I have a Bosch ROS20VS and a Festool ETS 150/3. Both work best when connected to a small vacuum. The Bosch was one of the highest-rated sanders in the magazine reviews, but it’s really slow compared to the Festool. It’s probably partly because of the 150/3’s larger sanding area (6” vs. 5”), but the Festool also has a more powerful motor. I suspect that the ETS 125 would be somewhere in between in terms of sanding speed.

Supposedly Festool’s abrasives are better, too, but I can’t say since I haven’t done a thorough comparison. They are, of course, more expensive, but some people suggest they last longer.

If you’re considering Festool, I’d suggest checking the Festool Owners Group for recommendations on which one to buy.

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#4 posted 10-29-2014 05:44 PM

Festool is the only way to go in my book…... I broke my wrist and forearm arm in 6 places, 21 screws and 3 plates. When I first tried using a ROS it killed me, Vibration was treating my arm like a tuning fork. I went to WoodCraft and they let me test all the sanders I wanted and the Festool was the ticket…. I never regretted it, used a regular ROS sander and paid the price for it.

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#5 posted 10-29-2014 06:48 PM

If you are looking more for the quality of the tool than the price, you have to be to consider Festool, I would tell you to look at a Mirka Ceros. I have mine connected to a Fein dust extractor and love it, I do not have to wear my respirator anymore when I sand. The ease of control is unlike any other sander on the market. I was put onto this sander by a local wood product manufacturer who went from pneumatic sanders to the Ceros after his compressor started to give him problems. He has been using his for 2 years in a production shop with not even a hiccup.

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jacquesr

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#6 posted 10-29-2014 07:07 PM

ETS 125 + CT26 Dust Extractor… NO DUST. Period.
Highly recommended.

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#7 posted 10-29-2014 07:21 PM

I had the Dewalt for 10 years and was very pleased with it. Took a chance on the Festool ETS 125 two years ago. Great sander, very low vibration. I highly recommend it.

-- Ken

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#8 posted 10-29-2014 07:55 PM

My Dewalt also needed replacing. Here’s the opinions I got when I asked a few weeks back,
http://lumberjocks.com/topics/64535

Much as I would have liked to go with the Festool, there’s just no way I could justify the $$ at this time (I just retired a few months ago, and we need to get settled into our new fixed budget)

I ended up with the Milwaukee … First time I ever had a variable speed ROS, and I’m finding that I like it.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-5-in-Random-Orbit-Sander-6021-21/100609940

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Dabcan

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#9 posted 10-29-2014 08:07 PM

Thanks for all the replies, I read the festool owners forum, I am a little worried by the number of people who stress that the 125 is a finishing sander and is not very powerful. Anyone out there who can compare an old dewalt to the festool?

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#10 posted 10-29-2014 08:44 PM

I have 7 Ros and always grab for my Milwaukee even though I paid quite abit more for some of the others I have.
The nice thing about buying from Home depot is that you can take it back if you don’t like it.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-5-in-Random-Orbit-Sander-6021-21/100609940

Edit
Opps I did not see JoeGa saying the same thing. :)

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Rob

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#11 posted 10-29-2014 09:09 PM

FWIW, the DeWalt has a 3/32” (2.38mm) stroke, and the ETS 125 only has a 2mm stroke. A longer/wider stroke is generally more aggressive. I also found that my Bosch ROS20VS only has a 1.2mm stroke, which probably further explains why it seems so much slower to use than the ETS 150/3.

If you don’t get the kind of response you’re hoping for here, I’d check on the FOG forum to see if anyone there prefers the DeWalt over the ETS 125. The impression I get is that most people are happy using the 6” ETS 150/3 (3mm stroke) or ETS 150/5 (5mm stroke) for finish sanding, but that sometimes it’s nice to have a 5” sander (ETS 125, RO 125) to work on smaller or narrower parts.

Also, since someone else brought up Festool’s CT vacs, keep in mind that you don’t have to go all-in and buy a Festool dust extractor with the sander. Plenty of Festool owners have confirmed that Shop-Vacs are just as good at dust extraction (you can get a high efficiency filter bag and HEPA filter for your standard Shop-Vac). The Festool vacs do have a lot of nice features, but by no means do you have to plunk down an extra $500+ to get good performance out of your sander.

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mramseyISU

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#12 posted 10-29-2014 09:28 PM

I’ve got the Milwakee too and it’s a great little sander.

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Rob

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#13 posted 10-29-2014 09:31 PM

I guess it’s also worth mentioning that some people like using a cabinet scraper instead of a sander—just another (and much cheaper) alternative to consider. If my hands weren’t toast from years of software development, I’d probably have given that a try.

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gfadvm

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#14 posted 10-30-2014 12:45 AM

IF you have a big compressor, the Dynabrade sander is a great sander and answers all of your needs: super light weight, almost no vibration, and great dust collection (especially with Abranet sanding discs).

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