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10-28-2014 09:54 PM

Topic tags/keywords: shopnotes

According to a thread over at WoodNet. Go to page four for this quote:

“Hi Robin,
Thank you for writing. Yes, it is sad, but true. We confirmed it late yesterday that issue #138 (Dec/14) will be the last published issue. It is an unfortunate business reality. We are hoping most readers will continue on with the long running Woodsmith magazine. We don’t have the final details on how we will be handling remaining subscribers, but if you are ok with transferring your remaining issues over to Woodsmith I’d be happy to facilitate this for you. Just let me know.
Best Regards,
XXXX, Manager
August Home Customer Service”

Hmm, let’s see: Popular Woodworking has imploded, American Woodworker has folded and ShopNotes is going bye. I do not think that we can say “Change is a comin’” any more. It’s here. I wonder what is going to happen next, though I am bummed with Shopnotes folding.

Oh well, I can always have my wife surprise me by putting old issues in the mail box.


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#1 posted 10-28-2014 10:06 PM

wait – what happened with Popular Woodworking? I missed that…

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#2 posted 10-28-2014 10:15 PM

Shopnotes, too? Damn.

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#3 posted 10-28-2014 10:19 PM

The two magazines I really like were Shopnotes and Woodturning Design and I guess I now lost 18 months on Shopnotes too. :((

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#4 posted 10-28-2014 10:20 PM

Joe, three of the Popular Woodworking editors/authors quit on the same day—Lang, Heuy and Bender.

They started something called ’’


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#5 posted 10-29-2014 12:29 AM

Well this is the pitts.
ShopNotes was my absolute favorite magazine.
Is it still possible to buy a library of past issues on DVD?
I’d like to at least have that.

This crap economy, continuous scandals, stupid waste, over regulation, and any damn thing else they can come up with to destroy America has gone too far. This totally SUCKS.

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#6 posted 10-29-2014 12:52 AM

Another Woodnet forum topic with an official response: link


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#7 posted 10-29-2014 01:22 AM

Ah….. poop.


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#8 posted 10-29-2014 01:26 AM

It figures, I just subscribed to both Woodsmith and Shop Notes. I got one free issue, and then #138. Ah well, we should get more issues of Woodsmith I guess.

Magazines are just tanking in every field.

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#9 posted 10-29-2014 03:46 AM

Hard to compete with the internet. I’ve stopped subscribing to much of anything a long time ago because by the time the printed material reaches me, it’s usually old news. That plus the fact that I don’t have the space or time to keep a proper indexed library that will allow me to find the right articles when I need them.

Couple that with the fact that after a huge period of growth over the past few decades, woodworking as a hobby seems to be shrinking. All those companies that sprang up to service the booming industry are left competing for the shrinking customer base instead of trying to capture the largest portion of newcomers.

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#10 posted 10-29-2014 04:14 AM

Bummer!! ;-(

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#11 posted 10-29-2014 04:50 AM

Anyone had a subscription for Workbench? I dropped it when it got eaten by MyHome.

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#12 posted 10-29-2014 01:14 PM

Publiications are going into the ditch everywhere because of digitization and the internet. In the first place hardcopy material is a PITA and you’d have to be a Luddite or a traditionalist to choose paper over the many advantages of electronic format.

The internet is killing traditional media and everyone who reads and posts here is contributing to the end. Remember the old days when people eagerly awaited the arrival of their magazines, the daily paper, or the broadcast time for their favorite show? Hell, in five minutes any one of us can use a smart phone and access almost anything imaginable. Why subscribe to Shop Notes or even thumb through old issues when there’s a tidal wave of websites and blogs and history residing just beneath your fingers and behind your screen? Yes, editorial oversight and professionalism set the old line apart from the million-and-one hacks on the web but the qualitative difference doesn’t seem to have saved Shop Notes or any of the empty shells that masquerade as “papers” and publications.

And then there’s the fact that the enormous breadth of web-based content dillutes attention. As a society we are engaged with our electronica more than ever, but the diversity of content means that fewer eyes fix on any one object because there are just too damn many objects. Anyone else notice that the film industry has been taking a beating? Anyone else in the ad world and see that ad spend has fled television?

Here’s a market research project for the guys among us: when is the last time that you spotted a newspaper left on the floor of a men’s room stall? Yeah, ladies, men are pigs, and in days gone by they’d read their paper while hiding from the boss and then leave it on the floor. Maybe eight years ago the newspapers vanished, and if you still see them today then I can only assume either that you work in a press room or reside in a retirement home.

It’s a brave new world out there.

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#13 posted 10-29-2014 01:16 PM

Dang, that stinks. I really enjoyed that magazine. I’m paid up on my subscription through next year. Does anyone know what happens to the extra issues? I’ve also got a WoodSmith subscription; hopefully they’ll tack it on there or maybe give me a credit towards the DVD archive of all the issues.

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#14 posted 10-29-2014 01:32 PM

I really liked ShopNotes all in all. Found it valuable. Some of the jigs, holders, fixtures looked like they needed a new variation on a theme they’d covered before. Nonetheless—loved the ideas.

-- "Man is the only animal which devours his own, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor." ~Thomas Jefferson

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#15 posted 10-29-2014 01:36 PM

The economy, regardless of what the press tells you, is seriously bad. I work for a school system and our budget has decreased by around 25% over the last three years, mostly because the tax revenue is not there.

We have lost about 10 people from them either leaving, retiring, or worse. They have not replaced any of them so the remaining pick up their workloads. Equipment that should have been replaced several years ago is still in production and the plans to replace them are off the table for at least 2 more years.

A local regional grocery store chain has reduced their overhead by seriously reducing their full time people at making up to $23 an hour by making them part time – 24 hours a week and reducing their rates to $9.50 an hour. Something about Obama care.

When things like this become the norm, expendable income used for hobbies, going out to dinner, going on nice vacations are not even discussed at the dinner table, the discussions become, “how do we make it this week and through the month?”

This may get worse before it gets better – we just have to hang in there, keep the faith, take each day at a time and work towards a better time.

-- David in Damascus, MD

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