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Forum topic by AngieO posted 10-28-2014 02:44 AM 1585 views 0 times favorited 26 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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AngieO

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10-28-2014 02:44 AM

Ok.. So I’ve been sick over the weekend and went into work today. After about two hours my boss sent me home. As long as I’m in bed and I don’t move around or talk I’m ok. (Allergies… talking makes me cough and moving… well… just drains me)

Anyhow… A friend messaged me and asked me if I could make a pie safe for her. She sent several pics that she took from a magazine. Pics were not that great but it’s a pie safe… not that hard. Right??? Well… with this allergy crud going on I’m just not seeing it. I know the dimensions and I’m just overthinking it I guess.

51” tall… 36” wide and 17.5” deep. Two shelves. two tins per door. She called it an “8 tin pie safe” (4 in the front and 2 on each side)

I guess the first question I have is if anyone knows where I can get the tins? Or what size they run? From the pic they look like they are about 12”x14”.
She also wants to paint it so she requested pine.

I figured I’d use 1×2 material. Glue up the legs to make them 2×2. But my dimensions don’t come out right. And I think this allergy crap is making me nuts so I’d love some input.


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#1 posted 10-28-2014 02:59 AM

Here’s one source for the tins. Pre-pierced or blank

Pie Safe Tins

They are 10×14.

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#2 posted 10-28-2014 03:03 AM

Which dimensions are causing problems, Angie ?

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#3 posted 10-28-2014 03:04 AM

Charles Neil did a full series of videos on pie safes a few years back … http://youtu.be/SJkp0GFeMKg

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#4 posted 10-28-2014 03:35 AM

Well… I was assuming a 12×14 tin. 10×14 changes things.

I love Charles Neil. I will have to watch that tomorrow.

Yonak… at the present moment… all of them.

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#5 posted 10-28-2014 03:42 AM

Angie, I think BigRedKnothead made one. Might want to check his projects.

BTW my asthma is doing the same thing to me right now, hang in there.

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#6 posted 10-28-2014 03:47 AM

Just looked at Reds projects and I don’t see a pie safe. You could PM him, I know he talked about working on one and I remember pics!

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#7 posted 10-28-2014 04:04 AM

I don’t know what kind of pine is available to you. Here in the PNW, the pine we see is almost always ponderosa, a very soft and weak wood, and hard to find in a clear grade. It often contains pitch pockets, which can spoil an otherwise nice looking piece. So I’m wondering if you have considered poplar. It’s a medium hard wood, easy to work, and paints up very well.

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#8 posted 10-28-2014 05:16 AM


I don t know what kind of pine is available to you. Here in the PNW, the pine we see is almost always ponderosa, a very soft and weak wood, and hard to find in a clear grade. It often contains pitch pockets, which can spoil an otherwise nice looking piece. So I m wondering if you have considered poplar. It s a medium hard wood, easy to work, and paints up very well.

- runswithscissors

I agree. Soft maple could be another good option.


Which dimensions are causing problems, Angie ?
- Yonak

Yonak… at the present moment… all of them.
- AngieO

The tins seem a bit small for the size of your cabinet. It seems like you’d have to go with 4 tins per door, set horizontally, if you don’t have a drawer, and four for each side. That’s a lot of tins. Here’s one with four per door :

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#9 posted 10-28-2014 10:17 AM

Angie

I hope you get feeling better. Not fun to be sick!

My favorite Pie safe video and plan is from the New Yankee Workshop. It is straight forward and relatively easy to build. You do not need to buy the plans just watching the show will get you going in the right direction. I too would use poplar for this project and plywood for the side panels and back. In the video, he uses the router to cut the grooves but you can easily make these on the table saw. Take you time and this will be a fun project for you to make!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pogZch-j9c

Here is a single width one to consider as well.

-- Measure twice and cut once.....Steve Lien

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#10 posted 10-28-2014 11:10 AM

FWW has free plans for a pie safe on their website: http://images.taunton.com/downloads/FW1124_PieSafe.pdf

You may or may not want to follow the plans, but they provide short instructions on how to make your own punched tin panels. They recommend Van Dyke’s restorers (www.vandykes.com), which sells blank panels for about $10 and patterned pre-punched ones for about $15.

Hope you get better quickly.

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#11 posted 10-28-2014 12:38 PM

Maybe to make the dimensions come out right with purchased tins, you just have t a add a little material to all the widths so they are the same but come up to the dimensions you want. A little professional cheating!!
I have done the several time to fit around a given insert. Who would know that all the frame member are a little over 2”wide on those fronts??

Will there be combination lock on that safe, too?????

Get well, Angie!!.....................Jim

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#12 posted 10-28-2014 12:47 PM

When I worked at the big orange box we sold tins like you want. Some of the stores have them back in the flooring dept, and some stores keep them near the appliances. There’s several styles and sizes

http://www.homedepot.com/s/ceiling%2520tins?NCNI-5

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#13 posted 10-28-2014 12:54 PM

Here is another source for tins, 10” x 14” seems to be the standard size for these. Woodsmith also has some plans, here. or Woodsmith in #55.

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#14 posted 10-28-2014 02:05 PM

Since it’s for someone else and you’ll probably be giving a good deal, buying the tins may be the best route.

On the other hand, I’ve bought rolls of stainless steel flashing, grabbed some Harbor Freight cold (steel) chisels and punches, reshaped them and made my own. Millions of patterns are available on the net, waiting for you to blow them up and tape them to your future tins.

By the way, you might look in to quercetin, which is available in health food stores. Yes, it really works for stuffy. Each of the several friends I’ve given some to said it helped. It may not be a magic bullet, but it can be a solution to avoiding having to take over the counters all the time.

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#15 posted 10-28-2014 02:46 PM

Love Pie Safes. I’ve built several. For mine(which were an oddball size) I went to http://www.piercedtin.com/. They will custom quote you your panels and have tons of choices for patterns. I’ve made a few of them and the clients love picking out the ones they like. I’d like to do one with copper tins one day.

You can get them with or without the patina finish to protect them. I went with just having them do it as it did not cost that much extra. If not I’d had to do it myself. I did mine as a donation to our school band booster organization to raffle and raise money. They even gave me a discount since it was for a charity. Great group and great product.

https://flic.kr/s/aHsjzi3SCp

Mine’s out of cherry and two adjustable shelves.

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