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WoodenGhost

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10-23-2014 12:02 AM

Hey Guys,

I am really new to woodworking and just started my collection. I was bought this nice Bailey No. 4 plane with some rush. I decided to clean it and in the processes ended up loosing a nut.

Looking at all the bailey hardware I couldn’t find one that looked like it. But upon other searches. I found one that is for a Sargent plane.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sargent-Plane-408-409-414-418-422-424-Tote-Handle-Knob-Brass-Nut-/251522539578?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a8fe9603a

Would it be safe to assume that the nuts are interchangeable?

This is what I have.

And these are my babies!

Craftsman jointer (Not sure if this was a good buy or a curse yet)

My Bailey No. 4 before I took it apart to clean it.

And my Bailey No. 5

Thanks for looking!

GhoSt


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John Hough

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#1 posted 10-23-2014 02:09 AM

Those are nice planes you have there – they’ll make good users. As far as the nut goes, it might fit, then again, it might not. Stanley used proprietary threads so most common hardware (and other plane parts) generally don’t fit. They’re often available on Ebay. Try a “Stanley plane parts” Google search and you’ll see lots of sellers. One reputable dealer is Bob Kaune at http://www.antique-used-tools.com/ he sells original replacement parts. You also might check with St James Bay Tools for reproduction parts at http://www.stjamesbaytoolco.com/stanley.html

John

-- John in Southcentral PA

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bandit571

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#2 posted 10-23-2014 02:11 AM

One other would be Eric at nhplaneparts.com on Ebay. Fast shipper, too.

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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Deycart

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#3 posted 10-23-2014 02:18 AM

As the seller of the nut I can tell you it WONT fit. That nut only fits a very small number of planes. I typically have Stanley nuts for sale. Give me a few days and I will have some new ones posted.

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Don W

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#4 posted 10-24-2014 12:13 AM

Sargent and Stanley used different thread. You can trust Deycart to get you the right one.

You’ve got some nice planes there. They’ll be good users once tuned up.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.net

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sikrap

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#5 posted 10-24-2014 01:35 AM

If Deycart doesn’t have one, I’m about 90% sure that I do.

-- Dave, Colonie, NY

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WoodenGhost

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#6 posted 10-27-2014 02:31 AM

Hey guys, sorry to have gone MIA for such a long time. Been a little busy but I stubbled on some stuff that I hope you guys can help me out. I’m currently doing some research on them but for some I get nothing.

Daycart and Sikrap,

I appreciate you guys helping me out. Fortunately, I found the missing nut!!! It was right under my nose. Dam things blend in to everything that is brown.

Ok guys, so here is what I got. Hope I didn’t do a bad buy. Felt it was cheap at the time but on further inspection most of these tools are incomplete.

Stanley #6 (Pat’d March-25-02, Aug-19-02, Apr-19-10)

Stanley # 9 1/4 (Blue coating. Stamps: C-9, 5 & L. On palm lock thingy: L & 8)

Stanley # 9 1/2 ? Adjustable throat. The little locking palm mechanism thingy has a B under it. Other then that, no other stamp marks. This one must have been the go to mini plane because the blade is so worn down that it looks like the previous owner had to take off the little wheel on the lever to make the blade work. The the one of the joint on the lock is broken.

cont…

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Deycart

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#7 posted 10-27-2014 02:35 AM

That’s not a 9 1/2 its an 18… and some how the cap was reassembled backwards. the angled part should be facing under the round part not the straight part. The 9 1/4 is a nice find. Great condition. 6 looks good too. Just need a toe screw assuming the hole is the same size. You can test this by using a frog screw. They are the same size.

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WoodenGhost

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#8 posted 10-27-2014 02:58 AM

Stanley No. 813-12 in. The jaws are missing on this thing.

Jorgenser wood vice. Don’t really know anything about these yet. All I know is that the wood part has a total length of 12”. 1 15/16” Thick. Threaded rod seems to be about ~13”

2 Files (one no markings. Other is Nicholson USA. Both are 17 7/16” L X 1 5/16” W X 1/4” TH)
Fulton No.3709 (I read these were bottom of the line planes. But to be honest, it doesn’t look to bad. Apart from having no machining on the part that the frog sits on. It looks pretty decent? Even has a dropped ring where the front handle goes to keep it from cracking under heavy use). Stamps on it is 301 and 1. On the frog its 316 & 6)

Crosair By Great Neck plane. (Another not very good plane from my research) (Close up picture not shown)

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WoodenGhost

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#9 posted 10-27-2014 03:06 AM

Now these two are incomplete but I am curious about them.

1st has a round sole (sp?) No stamping other then a 3 and some initials

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WoodenGhost

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#10 posted 10-27-2014 03:19 AM

Last one. Not sure what it would be called. Rabbet plane?

Stamped: 62 & B.T. BRIGGS

3/4

Only thing that came with the plane. Seems to control the depth of cut?

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WoodenGhost

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#11 posted 10-27-2014 03:23 AM



That s not a 9 1/2 its an 18… and some how the cap was reassembled backwards. the angled part should be facing under the round part not the straight part. The 9 1/4 is a nice find. Great condition. 6 looks good too. Just need a toe screw assuming the hole is the same size. You can test this by using a frog screw. They are the same size.

- Deycart

Yes your right. My apologies. I knew that. Not sure why it slipped my mind lol And thanks for the info. I also found a store with old planes and plane parts rusting away. Ill see if I can get one off of them. And also get a new blade, lever and cap. I’m sure there wont be any problems if its parts from another 9 1/4 or a 9 1/2 right?

Thanks for your help.

GhoSt

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Deycart

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#12 posted 10-27-2014 04:06 AM

I have never had a problem. You would probably have pretty good success even using parts from a different maker. The blade is 1 5/8” wide, so most, but not all parts will work except for the “lever”. You will need to get that from another Stanley.

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#13 posted 10-29-2014 02:44 PM

Awesome. Thanks Deycart!

And thanks to everyone else who helped me as well. Greatly appreciate it.

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