LumberJocks

Is wood dye safe to use on food contact projects?

  • Advertise with us

« back to Finishing forum

Forum topic by Micah Muzny posted 10-22-2014 05:30 PM 813 views 0 times favorited 5 replies Add to Favorites Watch
View Micah Muzny's profile

Micah Muzny

185 posts in 1194 days


10-22-2014 05:30 PM

I was thinking of making some rolling pins and various other projects not sure what at the moment. I was wondering if I use wood dye will it stay on the rolling pin or will it come off on to dough or whatever it may be used on? Is it safe for food contact? I have general finishes blue dye if that is helpful.


5 replies so far

View mahdee's profile

mahdee

3551 posts in 1229 days


#1 posted 10-22-2014 06:15 PM

Have you thought about food dye? I wouldn’t use any dye on rolling pin or cutting boards because eventually the finish will wear out and then there is a possibility that grandma’s biscuits will come out green and you will have the whole clan coming after you for ruining their biscuit and gravy breakfast.

-- earthartandfoods.com

View a1Jim's profile

a1Jim

115202 posts in 3039 days


#2 posted 10-22-2014 06:23 PM

Yes you can use dye and top coat is with poly and still have it food safe. Here’s a link that talks about finishes on items you want food safe.

http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfcfr/CFRSearch.cfm?fr=175.300

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

View a1Jim's profile

a1Jim

115202 posts in 3039 days


#3 posted 10-22-2014 06:26 PM

Here’s what Charles Neil says about it (the best finishing expert out there)

“There is no known CURED finish that is not food safe. There are alot of opinions and Myths, but thats a fact. Mineral oil is NOT a finish, it never dries and offer little to no protection , Take a piece of wood soaked or wiped with mineral oil and wipe it with something as simple as a water base dye and see if it is absorbed or not, then imagine its a meat / poultry by product . The issue and opinion is that a poly or any film finish would be cut into small pieces from use and consumed. That is entirely possible in a film. the key is to use a thin finish and apply it liberaly and let it soak in and then wipe it back , so as to not leave a film. I do it 2x times, and use the dickens out of mine, and no issue, . The opinion here is mine, how ever to use mineral oil is not wrong, it just doesnt do anything, it never dries , but it does make the wood look good because it stays wet, and glossy. My point to this is that no one is wrong, so do as you wish, but if you can find me one single professional finisher who has actually tested all this, who can show me any data or test that show’s where the human body can
redissolve any known Dried /cured finsh, other than shellac, I would love to see it. As a matter of fact if you do some research and find the FDA’s approved list of finishes , it would amaze you. I will stay with my “poly” ( thinned Arm R seal or Water lox )” , you use your mineral oil, lets just be happy in what ever floats our boats .Just please be sure to use a little bleach and antibacterial cleaning products “

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

View mahdee's profile

mahdee

3551 posts in 1229 days


#4 posted 10-23-2014 12:59 AM

It is all about what people think about consuming. The dye will eventually wear off and not only they have to re-finish it, they have to match the dye. Some folks don’t mind eating a little plastic here and there and I am with Charles as it relates to cutting boards and rolling pin. Unless you live in an Amish community, those cooking tools mostly serve as a display and/or are used to cut a few slices of cheese with a few glasses of wine. So, the question becomes what the folks you sell this to perceive is healthy which is a relative term. In so far as what FDA approves for consumption, I rather stick with common sense as they have a pretty bad track record both in decision making and bias towards those who bribe them in their decision makings.. Just a few years back lead and asbestos was AOK, drugs that caused diabetes were AOK, formaldehyde in most fast foods are AOK. Most folks are coming to the realization that being healthy does not mean what some agency says, “go ahead and eat it”. This has led to people thinking for themselves and growing or consuming natural foods. You just have to be honest with your customers and let them know what is in the product you are selling them that will affect their food and let them decide.

-- earthartandfoods.com

View a1Jim's profile

a1Jim

115202 posts in 3039 days


#5 posted 10-23-2014 01:10 AM

I don’t think most folks would finish a salad bowl or rolling pin or cutting board with 6 coats of poly so that your going to be eating chips of poly . If cuts on a cutting board removed one coat of finish that kind of cut would also leave chips of wood, that means folks would be complaining about saw dust in their food,I’ve never read or heard of anyone with such a complant.

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

Have your say...

You must be signed in to reply.

DISCLAIMER: Any posts on LJ are posted by individuals acting in their own right and do not necessarily reflect the views of LJ. LJ will not be held liable for the actions of any user.

Latest Projects | Latest Blog Entries | Latest Forum Topics

HomeRefurbers.com