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10-21-2014 02:01 PM

This essay was written by Miguel Gómez-Ibáñez, president of North Bennet Street School and published in the Fall 2014 issue of the school’s newsletter Benchmarks.

http://www.nbss.edu/about/news/makermovement/index.aspx

-- “Big man, pig man, ha ha, charade you are.” ― R. Waters


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#1 posted 10-21-2014 02:49 PM

COOL “out of the box” essay…

I’ve been doing a lot of that… just by just doing it… :)

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#2 posted 10-21-2014 08:03 PM

Hope that it catches on. Unfortunately the school boards and administrations have decided that College is the one and only goal worthy of public education at the K-12 level.

They miss the fact that in many college programs in STEM, the hand skills learned in shop class go into building the new high vacuum reactor chambers, and apparatus.
As a graduate student, we had a student shop, across the hall in the Physics building, where we could customize and build the equipment to carry out experiments.
“Professional Administrators” are worse than Lawyers, when it comes to any real progress in learning.

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#3 posted 10-21-2014 08:16 PM

It’s another “hippie” type fad that’ll come and go just like communes in the ‘60s. In fact, it may not even come.

-- Clint Searl....Ya can no more do what ya don't know how than ya can git back from where ya ain't been

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#4 posted 10-22-2014 01:01 AM

+1 Clint…

I must of been raised in a strange area as most that took shop class was destined to “compete” with an illegal work force or work releases (if not one themselves). Those that were considered good shop class students were then funneled into Drafting and Technical Drawing in high school and pushed into the Vo tech area. Nothing wrong at all going this route but it was never an area parent of a good student would guide their child towards. My uncle was a shop teacher and retired from the public school system and he commented rarely did he have what he considered a “sharp” kid and that overall it wasn’t much more that a system set up to help athletes stay eligible and keep kids not interested in school busy.

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#5 posted 10-22-2014 11:38 AM

+1 Clint

Back in my high school days, if you had shop class, that meant you rode the short school bus( that means you were special).
I was never” academically or mentally challenged” so shop class was not offered.

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#6 posted 10-22-2014 04:17 PM


+1 Clint Back in my high school days, if you had shop class, that meant you rode the short school bus( that means you were special). I was never” academically or mentally challenged” so shop class was not offered.

- upinflames


Interesting – that certainly is the way shop is treated today.

When I was in high school (class of ‘84) EVERYONE was required to take one semester of shop class… Geeks, Jocks, toolies, and both boys and girls.

Maybe my experience was the ‘social experiment’ of the late 70’s where Everyone was exposed to ALL the aspects of education, and the “college prep” and AP courses were more reserved for junior and senior years….more like the rest of the world that begins to sort kids based on aptitudes and assign tracks.

That assignment of tracks, goes against “mainstreaming” of today where they have decided that “EVERYBODY” goes to college.

-- 'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' ~George Carlin

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#7 posted 10-22-2014 04:56 PM

I guess I was in the “social experiment” as well. I took wood shop, metal shop, mechanical drawing and small engine repair. There could have been more that I do not remember. I was on the “destined for college” track.

I lucked out!

-- “Big man, pig man, ha ha, charade you are.” ― R. Waters

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#8 posted 10-22-2014 08:53 PM

I was class of 91 and they had already identified “gifted” children by the time I was in first grade. Shop was offered when I got to middle school but those considered gifted were not included in shop. “Gifted” children took Latin, computer programming, intro to physics/chemistry, and advanced math. The other kids took shop, home economics, a basic life skills class (check book balancing, budgeting, etc..).... Once you got high school shop class was further diluted to essentially the bottom 10 to 15% academically (200 kids per grade). The bulk took standard classes and then once again 30 “gifted” ended up taking a lot of chemistry, math, biology, physics, and AP classes. I was in a public school system with more than half, I think 70%, of kids falling into the “economically disadvantaged” category. Parents of the other 30% didn’t want their kids to end up being in that 70% class so really pushed you not to follow a curriculum that included shop.

I asked my daughter and son (7th and 6 th) about shop class. They have it at their school starting 7th grade and they are required to take it a semester in 7th and a semester in 8th and “shop” covers a wide range of general skills from what they expressed.

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#9 posted 10-25-2014 09:28 PM

Class of 71

Shop class for three out of four yrs

Chemistry, Skipped the “higher math classes” English four years

Radio, and Speech class. I even had my own afternoon radio show, as a Senior. It was the last 1/2 hour of the school day, and included the “sign off”.

Skipped FFA ( town boy) But, I wound up in Home Ecc>??? At least i can cook for meself.

Uncle sam also gave a few good lessons, too…...

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