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gridlockd

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10-21-2014 01:36 PM

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Hello All,

I have made a couple of small jewelry boxes, or keepsake boxes, whatever you’d like to call them. I am trying to get the small lid hinges attached and am struggling with alignment and getting them to close properly, attaching them etc. I profess that these small boxes are not in my regular repitiore, but i thought, “how hard could it be?” and decided to give it a go. I’m not one to easily give up on an project so I’d really like to see these through. does anyone have a tried and true method of aligning and attaching these tiny little butt hinges? i’d love to hear how the rest of you do it, since i’m struggling with them.
Also, i’d like to felt line the boxes to give them a nice finished appearance on the inside. how does everyone else do theirs? do you line the bottom and sides? what do you use to glue it down?
I’d really like to hear from any and all that have tips and tricks for making their boxes, as i’m sure i can’t be the only woodworker out here that would like to turn out a good product and isn’t really familiar with the process.

-- Gridlockd


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mahdee

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#1 posted 10-21-2014 02:28 PM

Hi gridlockd,
I normally place the hinges in between the lid and bottom and mark where the y need to go. The only thing I know about lining the sides and bottom is that it is better to use thin wood pieces, wrap them with the felt and either staple or glue them in the back side only. This provides for an easy repair and replacement of the felt.

-- earthartandfoods.com

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Scott C.

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#2 posted 10-21-2014 02:41 PM

I usually attach the hinge to the box first, and then use double sided tape to align the lid, mark the outline and hole pattern of the hinge, and then chisel out the recess and pilot holes.

I only line the bottom of my boxes and trays, with self adhesive felt from the craft store, simple and good enough for me.

-- measure twice, cut once, swear and start over.

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SamBev

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#3 posted 10-21-2014 04:43 PM

Maybe this video from The Wood Whisperer will help? http://www.thewoodwhisperer.com/videos/a-butt-hinge-mortise/

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distrbd

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#4 posted 10-21-2014 05:22 PM

Flocking is an option for lining the box:

-- Ken from Ontario, Canada

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poospleasures

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#5 posted 10-22-2014 01:07 AM

Small hinges are sometimes APIA. I make a bunch of small to medium hinge boxes. I measure where to place the hinges on the box-now hold the hinge in place and mark lightly with a razor knife-chop a hinge mortise with sharp chisels-the first cutting with the chisel should be just a hair inside your marked lines- it should be almost as deep as both hinge leaves and taper toward the barrel so that hinge leave stays level-now use the chisel and carefully cut to the marked lines so that the hinge just pushes in fairly tight- the hinge should go in until the barrel is about half way in-using an appropriate sized guide drill bit assemble drill the screw holes in the box body and install the screws-use little shims between the leaves to make sure they stay level when the top is pressed down on them-cover the upper exposed leaves with double face tape- carefully lower the top maintaining the position you want and then push it down on the tape-now keep it from moving and put a couple clamps on to push the top down really hard to stick the tape-remove clamps and gently open the lid without pulling the tape loose and drill the screw holes with the guided drill bit-remove the tape and gunk and install the screws and there ya go.
Hope this helps.

-- I,ve had amnesia for as long as I can remember. Vernon

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poospleasures

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#6 posted 10-22-2014 01:14 AM

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-- I,ve had amnesia for as long as I can remember. Vernon

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gridlockd

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#7 posted 10-22-2014 02:14 PM

Thanks for all the replies! there are some good ideas here. Vernon, I agree with you on that score. hinges are a PITA, especially these little box hinges. I can do cabinet door hinges practically with my eyes closed, but these little guys are giving me fits! I will give these options a try and report my results as soon as I can.

I like the flocking idea, but am not crazy about having to add a specific color glue and flock material any time i want to change to another color. I do like the thought of pre-wrapping thin panels in felt then inserting them in the box. I wonder if stiff cardboard would produce the desired result as well? I will play around with that solution also.

great ideas guys! keep ‘em coming! hopefully I’m not the only LJ’er that is absorbing knowledge from this thread.

-- Gridlockd

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rustynails

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#8 posted 10-22-2014 03:38 PM

Don’t for get to pre drill the holes and use steel screws to set the hinges. Once a lined take one screw out at a time and replace with the brass screws as it will strip out the heads and possible break off the screw if you don’t.

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#9 posted 10-29-2014 11:19 PM

Gridlockd – I read every word ( I think ) in all of the responses but not one of them mentioned bees wax or candle wax or any kind of wax at all.
Call me a scary kat but when I deal with smaller screws and hinges I always rub the screws in bees wax even after drilling the pilot holes. To me, it makes a big difference -

-- Dick, Malvern Ohio - Your imagination is your only holdup

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RandyinFlorida

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#10 posted 11-05-2014 05:38 PM

My first thought was superglue to hold it in place while you drill and screw. Wouldn’t that work?

-- Randy in Crestview Florida, Wood Rocks!

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