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poopiekat

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10-18-2014 05:41 PM

The HOYD thread has solved so many issues, answered so many questions, and converted so many people, that I wondered if the same thing might be true for spoke shaves. With my apologies to Bertha, for borrowing the title somewhat from his epic thread.

I thought I’d post some pics, to help define which numerical designation your spoke shave might be. I have a bunch which I can’t easily identify, the Stanleys have been copied in other foundries to one degree of success or another.

so, here goes:

#51
Record, 9 3/4” Long, 2 11/16” cutter
Stanley 10”, 2 1/8” cutter
Stanley 10 1/8” 2 1/8” cutter
generic 10 1/8”, 2 1/16” cutter
generic10 1/8”, 2 1/8” cutter

#52 Kunz 9 3/8” , 2 1/16” cutter

#53 Stanley Split blade, 10 1/8”, 2 1/16” cutter

#60 Stanley tandem, SW, 10 7/8”, 1 1/2” each cutter

Kunz 9 5/8” 1 1/4” curved, 1 5/8” straight

Stanley 9 5/8” 1 1/4” curved, 1 3/4” straight

#64 Stanley #64 8 3/4” 1 3/4” cutter

#A64 Record, 8 1/2” 1 3/4” cutter

generic #64, 8 7/8”, 1 3/4” cutter

#65 Kunz w/ chamfer guides 10 1/2, 1 1/2” cutter and rounded sole.

#65 Stanley 10 3/8”, 1 1/2” cutter, rounded sole.

Ooops… no pic..

#63, Stanley, 10 7/8, 1 11/16” cutter

Some unknowns:

generic 9 1/4”, 2 1/8 with chipbreaker?

generic 9” , 1 3/4”

Stanley, half-moon logo on cutter, 9 3/4”, 2 1/16” cutter

#151s

got pics to share? any info or thoughts you’d like to share? What is YOUR favorite spoke shave, and why?
Thanks, all for your input!

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!


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#1 posted 10-18-2014 06:29 PM

Poopie you win !
That’s a pile of shaves, but I thought you had a hate on for Kunz ? you seem to have a lot of them..
I’ve got a 51 of theirs sold by Home Hardware, couldn’t get the freaker to work, and believe it or not Lee Valley customer service gave me the answer.. too much paint where the blade beds, just ONE flipping corner….they have sold the Kunz line in a limited way for years.

-- Glen, B.C. Canada

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Don W

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#2 posted 10-18-2014 06:41 PM

that’s a pile of shaves. I’ve got a few, but have typically sold what I wasn’t using.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.net

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#3 posted 10-18-2014 07:00 PM

Good timing sir! My only shave is a modern curved sole Stanley that I put away out of frustration. Due diligence with my first flat sole is desperately needed. I shall follow…

-- "My god has more wood than your god" ... G. Carlin.

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#4 posted 10-18-2014 07:28 PM

Glen: yup, you’re right, I really have no use for them…but, my Stanley #65 was begging for chamfer guides, and along came the Kunz. I’ll paint the guides black and put ‘em on the Stanley, when I need ‘em. Yeah, Kunz in general is scrap metal to me, but for as little as I pay for them, I can salvage the cutters, screws and stuff for more evolved spoke shaves, wink wink!

Don: Yeah, I know should never let these multiply like rabbits, but I’m pretty well known for never thinning the herd…in fact you are the recipient of the only escapee from the poopiekat corral. My only population control is the periodic sacrifice of a “Handyman” when I’m desperate for little giblets for other plane restorations. When I retire, I’ll start peddling a boatload of miscellaneous planes, and other tools.

Woodcox: Just make sure that your flat-sole purchase does not have a ‘Gang-Green’ paint finish on it! Though I only have a couple of curved sole examples myself, they are the unbeatable answer to smoothing inner curves. Any brand-name #151 can be a hi-performance user, and I’d settle for one if I was to have just one, (er two with a curved sole model too.)

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#5 posted 10-18-2014 08:05 PM

Yes, that reminds me. I need to post that tuning up project.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.net

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#6 posted 10-18-2014 08:05 PM

I’ve got a spokeshave that I picked up with my #80 scraper from a LJ on here, but I must confess that I haven’t learned how to use it yet.

-- The quality of one's woodworking is directly related to the amount of flannel worn.

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poopiekat

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#7 posted 10-18-2014 08:11 PM

jmartel: Let’s have a look at your new acquisition!
Somebody should get a tutorial going on the use and care of spokeshaves… They’re very under-represented here, IMO.

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#8 posted 10-18-2014 08:17 PM

So are you telling us the spoke shaves will multiply too?!!

Here is my contribution, its a no-name I think.

-- Good judgement comes from experience and experience comes from poor judgement.

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#9 posted 10-18-2014 08:37 PM

Here are my spokeshaves. First off, a crappy one I bought for $2 in Cambodia:

Next, two “Boggs” spokeshaves, which are amazing to use:

Finally, Lee Valley’s cast round spokeshave:

-- Allen, Colorado

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poopiekat

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#10 posted 10-18-2014 08:40 PM

That’s a beauty, Tim!!
wonder if it’s an AMT, they were making repro’s of classic tools in brass or bronze back in the 80’s. Nobody else was really doing that in those days.
In order to multiply, you gotta have more than one!!!

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#11 posted 10-18-2014 08:45 PM

Bob,
Your Cambodia one resembles the #64s, what with the split cutter and all.
I dare not even dream about your LNs and Lee Valley examples!
I’d like to see either of the “Boggs” shaves in action!! Off to youTube I go!
Thanks to everyone for posting!!

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#12 posted 10-18-2014 09:03 PM

I’ve got the LN Boggs spokeshaves as well. Compared to vintage, these have a little more heft in the casting. However, the primary difference is the mouth opening. It’s much smaller with the LN and Veritas, which I like.

I’m not sure why Boggs didn’t use the ol’ no. 151 blade adjustment in his design (as veritas did). It sure seems to be a superior design. It takes a little while to get used to setting and adjusting the iron on the boggs spokeshave. But once you’ve got it down….they sing.

Spokeshaves my preferred way to shape or smooth most any curved surface. A couple action shots.

-

-- "At the end of the day, try and make it beautiful....because the world is full of ugly." Konrad Sauer

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poopiekat

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#13 posted 10-18-2014 09:13 PM

Some great shots, Red! And on quarter-sawn oak, too!
If I owned the upscale contemporary spokeshaves, my old junkyard refugees would soon end up on Craigslist, I’m sure. Thanks for the terrific, inspirational pics!

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#14 posted 10-18-2014 09:21 PM

You have a woodworkers disease, the main symptom- when I retire, I will sell-I have retired more than a
couple of times and I still have not sold a tool. I have given tools to sons and other worthy people, but
can not remember selling a tool yet. The only thing you can do is continue to enjoy life. I would put a
picture of my spokeshaves here, but they are behind the colorful stump that is becoming a dollhouse for
a great grandaughter and unavailable until it is finished.

-- As ever, Gus-the 77 yr young apprentice carpenter

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poopiekat

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#15 posted 10-18-2014 11:10 PM

Thanks for your insight, Gus!
Yeah, I have three grandsons, all in the 4 to 6 year-old range. I want to build each of them an Anarchist-style toolbox, complete with tools. Well, I gotta have a few dozen of each type of tool, from which I can select the three finest of each to put in the toolchests. Equity, y’know! And then, of course, there’s the two granddaughters, who would just give me a funny look if I made them toolboxes. I’m just a dinosaur, perhaps I should just make them something they can put their I-Pads on. Woodworking is such a sunset hobby…putting a smile on a child’s face with a handmade wooden gift is still something I can do.

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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