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johnhutchinson

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10-14-2014 02:54 AM

Topic tags/keywords: scroll saw

My old Dremmel scroll saw finally bit the dust, so I went to Craigslist, Columbus, OH, in search of a replacement. There were a few nice DeWalts, but the one that caught my eye was a NEW 16” KingCraft for $40. When I went for a look, the box had been opened and taped shut, but the machine was still embalmed with cosmoline and none of the accessory bags, including an assortment of blades, had been opened. When I asked about an instruction book, the owner shrugged his shoulders and dropped the price to $25. So I bought it.

I’ve used it for about an hour, and I’m impressed with its stability (massive chunks of cast iron) and it purrs at a constant 1750 strokes/minute. Tensioning the blade is awkward because the knob for that is at the back and on the bottom, it only takes pinned blades, there’s no provision for dust collection, and the table in front of the blade is ridiculously short. BUT … it’s a stout little machine that I’d like to trick out to the max … for another $25 max.

I have some ideas for turning it into a silk purse, and I’m wondering if anyone else has taken on a similar challenge. Tips and tricks?

p.s. – I found the picture below on an eBay ad where the seller was asking $125/used. Mine’s all bright and shiny. :)

-- John - Central Ohio - "too much is never enough"


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MrUnix

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#1 posted 10-14-2014 03:22 AM

Looks almost identical to a Grizzly G0536.. maybe.. hard to tell the difference between them, but you might start there.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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longgone

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#2 posted 10-14-2014 03:33 AM

For $25 you can’t go wrong. I am not familiar with Kingcraft.

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crowie

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#3 posted 10-14-2014 04:25 AM

Now that’s a top deal…. if you find a second one, please, send it on down under John….

-- Lifes good, Enjoy each new day...... Cheers from "On Top DownUnder" Crowie

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#4 posted 10-14-2014 05:33 AM

Nice John! When you say “trick out to the max” do you mean things like extending the table, adding a blower and light,...?

-- God bless, Candy

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johnhutchinson

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#5 posted 10-14-2014 05:45 AM

MrUnix: I looked at your link to the Grizzly GO536, and it IS identical, but the Griz is variable speed. I have a speed control that I purchased about 10 years ago—for a router—but never used. I’m going to give it a try.
The mount for the pin blades is interesting because blades can be set parallel or perpendicular to the arm. Not sure when I’d use that feature, but hey.

I’m thinking about making a shallow “torsion box” table with I/4” tempered Masonite pegboard. I’m going to attach an exhaust port to the box and pull dust through the holes. The torsion box table will attach to the iron table with rare-earth magnets. The hardboard has 1/4”-diameter holes, it takes a 3/16” pilot hole for the pinned blades, so I should end up with something close to a zero-clearance table. And it’ll be slick.

And then a great lighting system. And a foot-pedal switch. And flames on the side. And …

-- John - Central Ohio - "too much is never enough"

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johnhutchinson

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#6 posted 10-14-2014 05:51 AM

Candy: Great minds. :) You popped up while I was responding to MrUnix.

It has a blower with an old-school plastic tube and copper nozzle. I like it, but it’s TOO powerful. That’s why I want to add a dust-catching extended table.

-- John - Central Ohio - "too much is never enough"

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The Box Whisperer

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#7 posted 10-14-2014 10:59 AM

I just scored this Delta 16” for free, and am in a similar boat. It’s no Dewalt but for free it works well. I had done some searching around for tricked out scroll saws and had not come up with much, Ill be watching this thread closely. Maybe we will get lucky and Sheila Landry will chime in.

-- "despite you best efforts and your confidence that your smarter and faster than a saw blade at 10k rpm…. your not …." - Charles Neil

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johnhutchinson

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#8 posted 10-14-2014 12:43 PM

The Box Whisperer: I still don’t understand the thinking (or lack of) behind my KingCraft’s table. Your Delta, with almost the same design, has at least a fair amount of table in front of the blade. The KingCraft has 3”. As much as I like the color of your “workbench”. that’s where I’m going to concentrate my efforts for improvements, along with extending the table. A chunky MDF base would add more mass and could serve as the base for lights and an articulated dust collection hose. Rather than a dust blower, I want to run it with a dust sucker.

-- John - Central Ohio - "too much is never enough"

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Roman - THE BOOTMAN

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#9 posted 10-14-2014 01:51 PM

JOHN, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE FUN! CAN’T WAIT TO SEE SCROLL WORK FROM YOU. HAVE A GREAT DAY!
ROMAN

-- Roman:... These Boots Were Made For 'Talkin'!

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The Box Whisperer

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#10 posted 10-14-2014 02:04 PM

John,

I had a peek at the delta just now and I’m eyeballing 5-6” in front of my table, so yeah I guess I’m a little better off there. I was going to bolt the whole thing down to a sitting height bench for stability, I also wanted to run DC, looking at this for it…

http://www.busybeetools.com/products/BLOWER-DUST-MAG.-BASE.html

If needed I might do a blower DC combo, to push the dust towards the DC. I also of course want a lamp, and call me crazy, but if I’m going to do all of that Id like a sled for repeat cuts too. So that means I need to add a tapered piece to the table to bring the edge parallel to the blade. I’m thinking of something done with plywood or UMHW plastic and would hold to the iron table (side of it) via rare earth magnets.

Last of all, all of this needs to be removable in case this delta kicks the bucket or I fall in love with scrolling and need the dewalt. Id like to be able to move this stuff to a newer machine.

thats my list so far.

-- "despite you best efforts and your confidence that your smarter and faster than a saw blade at 10k rpm…. your not …." - Charles Neil

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#11 posted 10-14-2014 02:45 PM

Now that is one heck of deal John. I bought a scroll saw last year but haven’t used it yet.

-- earthartandfoods.com

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#12 posted 10-14-2014 03:37 PM

... I’m wondering if anyone else has taken on a similar challenge.

About 8 years ago, I bought one of these on sale for $39 at Aldi. I used it for one project, then let her sit until I donated it to Habitat for Humanity. The blade tension adjustment mechanism was a PITA, the table surface in front of the blade was way too limiting, and it only uses pinned blades.

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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Bill White

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#13 posted 10-14-2014 04:52 PM

The speed controller will only work on motors with brushes if I recall correctly.
You might try a lamp dimmer.
I have an old AMT scroller that looks a lot like yours. There are “blocks” that will hook into/on to the pin retainers. I bought ‘em for my AMT at the time of purchase. There is a site for a fellow who makes and sells add-on equipment for scroll saws. .http://www.pozsgaidesigns.com/index.htm
I’ve not bought from him.

Bill

-- bill@magraphics.us

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johnhutchinson

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#14 posted 10-14-2014 05:17 PM

Gerry: This whole thing is an experiment in “conquering” what seems to be a crappy machine. The funniest part is that I own a big-rig Dewalt DW788, but it’s on loan (probably forever) to my brother who’s making wooden clocks.

The blade tensioning mechanism is a PITA, but I don’t change blades that often. I intend to fix the limited table space with an add-on, zero-clearance tempered hardboard top. I’ve never used pinned blades until now, but I’m starting to like them—they seem to track better.

-- John - Central Ohio - "too much is never enough"

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#15 posted 10-14-2014 05:32 PM

The Box Whisperer: I’m beginning to think that besides extending the table, the table for the saw is where the “tricks” should happen. If the table becomes a shallow box, it can house the speed control and the dust collection port. If I’m going to invest any more money, it’s going for a stay-there articulated hose coming up from the box and mounted to the side of the saw ($13, pic below).

The existing table on the KingCraft lends itself to an add-on table because the sides are parallel for half of its length.

-- John - Central Ohio - "too much is never enough"

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