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Forum topic by 1371Marine posted 10-06-2014 05:05 PM 1488 views 0 times favorited 9 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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10-06-2014 05:05 PM

Looking for some advice on this one. I hear they are real work horses. Obviously I’d restore it, but is the price in line? It looks pretty rough and I haven’t seen it in person. If it’s complete and in good shape is it worth it?? Considering a resto, maybe a conversion to belt drive?? etc…

The listing reads;

have an all original Oliver 144-BD 8” Jointer. 1950’s era VERY heavy duty. Original SINGLE PHASE, 1 HP, direct drive motor. Jointer starts up great and runs very smooth with hardly any vibration. Incredible smooth running machine compared to most of the newer units costing thousands more. It has been stored inside for a few years so the blades will need sharpened or replaced. Paint is staring to flake off but obviously that does not affect operation. Great candidate for restoration of perfectly usable as is. Fence is not shown in pictures since I had it removed from the machine but the original fence is included and also in good condition. Asking $750 OBO.


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#1 posted 10-06-2014 05:13 PM

Find out what kind of cutterhead it has.

If the machine interests you that’s a factor.

I am fond of old machinery. The deciding factors
for me are low price, specialized function and
industrial capacity. The jointer above
doesn’t meet any of those criteria. Some
people are interested in Oliver machinery and
it’s more sought after than some of the other
makers, perhaps because it’s not so difficult
to put together a shop full of all Oliver machines.

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#2 posted 10-06-2014 06:24 PM

At the moment I’m interested in putting a “shop” together as I’ve been scraping by with minimal tools for some years now just doing projects and carpentry. This is much different from the “woodworking” I want to get back into. I don’t want to buy just anything to to accomplish this either. I’d rather outfit it once and have it last for years, rather than replace or swap out items. That’s why I’m looking for advice on these machines as they become available in my area. In regard to cutter head, can you expound on this a little for me. Thanks again

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#3 posted 10-06-2014 06:26 PM

Oliver “clamshell” heads are a problem.

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#4 posted 10-06-2014 08:41 PM



Oliver “clamshell” heads are a problem.

- Loren


I have read that about those heads. That’s one reason that these forums are so valuable, there is a wealth of knowledge at hand with decades if not centuries of combined expertise and experiences. How are these heads readliy identified?

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#5 posted 10-06-2014 11:07 PM

Picture of a clamshell head. Basically the head has a rounded piece of metal that bolts to a square head making the square cutterhead round. The problem is that the bolts on these are prone to fail throwing a piece of metal and sharp blade out at high speed. Pretty scary. Clamshell heads are no longer used for this reason. Its possible this machine does not have such a head. But I would darn make sure before paying any money for it.

That being said…. That price is an excellent one!!......... for an already restored 1950’s 8” jointer.

Its pretty bad for one in need of a complete restore. I would say this machine is worth 400 assuming you don’t mind the head. (maybe you plan to replace it with a helical head anyway?). I would leave it direct drive if it were me.

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#6 posted 10-06-2014 11:36 PM

You should consider that 12” Crescent for sale
in the same area. The seller is unrealistic on
the price and probably doesn’t know it.
It’s worth maybe a grand. Sometimes if
you call and level with the seller they’ll admit
they have no real idea what it’s worth and
will entertain a much lower offer.

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#7 posted 10-06-2014 11:39 PM

There’s also a lovely S.A. Woods 12” jointer available
in Milwaukee for $550 on the for-sale forum on
owwm.org, in restored condition. Gib screw
cutterhead.

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#8 posted 10-06-2014 11:40 PM

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#9 posted 10-07-2014 01:16 AM

here’s the head

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