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Forum topic by Gixxerjoe04 posted 09-30-2014 01:23 AM 1450 views 0 times favorited 16 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Gixxerjoe04

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09-30-2014 01:23 AM

So I’m just curious, what’s the reason for the astronomical prices for live edge pieces of lumber? I know they look awesome and everything, but don’t get why the prices are 5+ times the cost of rough cut kd lumber of the same species. I can get 4/4 kd cherry or walnut since they’re prevalent around here between $1.50-4 a bf, but any live edge pieces are at least $10+ a bf, i figure it’s less cutting and getting more out of the wood so didn’t get why such the mark up. Of course I don’t mill lumber or know anything really about it so could just be something i don’t know about. I did about crap a brick when i called a local lumber yard looking for a 4/4 12” wide live edge piece of walnut, they had a 12’ long board for $300, just couldn’t believe it.


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Andre

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#1 posted 09-30-2014 01:37 AM

Hope you get an answer, I thought that it was some Democrat thing down in the U.S. that it cost more to do Less? LMAO! Here in Canada Most Live edge is cheap or free, like a waste product! Only good for fire wood?

-- Lifting one end of the plank.

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#2 posted 09-30-2014 01:54 AM

Haha i wish, yesterday i went to my buddy’s friends farm who took down a bunch of trees. I went to cut stump/roots out and saw where his friend had a bunch of walnut milled. They had cut some trees into live edge pieces, my friend was saying it was probably scrap and to take it all because the rough lumber was in a different pile. I could of had a truck load of live edge but the guy who had the wood milled wasn’t there, and i told my friend, him or someone is probably wanting to keep it, it was so temping though but i didn’t want to make his friend mad or anything, my buddy is going to ask him about it so could get lucky.

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wseand

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#3 posted 09-30-2014 02:33 AM

I would venture to guess that it isn’t used as much for furniture so you would have a supply and demand issue with it. As well it tends to be coveted by some for some reason and that will increase the price.
It looks pretty and a finished piece made out of it tends to sell for more.

Its a conspiracy with woodworkers that it is hard to work with and takes far longer to make so it costs more.

-- Bill - "Freedom flies in your heart like an Eagle" Audie Murphy

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Monte Pittman

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#4 posted 09-30-2014 02:44 AM

Most of my rough cut slabs, I sell by the board foot. Much like dimensional lumber. If it is a unique piece, then the price goes up. I wouldn’t say I sell huge amounts of lumber, but there is a reasonable demand. As for “Live Edge or Natural” wood furniture, I truly can’t build fast enough to meet demand. But I am a one person shop.

-- Mother Nature created it, I just assemble it.

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#5 posted 09-30-2014 02:55 AM

Things have no intrinsic value in our economy—they’re worth what folks will pay for them. Good live edge pieces are tough to come by, and when you want them for a particular project, nothing else will do. It’s all supply and demand.

The sawmills around here go through live edge pieces about as fast as they can produce them. Low supply.

I was looking for a piece for a recent project, my closest sawmill didn’t have any, and I looked on CL for weeks and then made a 90 mile roundtrip to another sawmill and looked at 20 pieces before deciding on the one. High Demand.

It’s not about the amount of bf.

-- "Man is the only animal which devours his own, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor." ~Thomas Jefferson

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#6 posted 09-30-2014 03:06 AM

BTW, I used a piece from my local sawmill for my first live edge piece. He sold it by the BF. Because it has very little usable 4/4 lumber that could come out of it (rounded bottom covered with bark), he sold it to me for $15. It is an oddly shaped piece, but I like it.

-- "Man is the only animal which devours his own, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor." ~Thomas Jefferson

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pizn

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#7 posted 09-30-2014 04:59 AM

Yeah there is a place by me that specializes in these kind of pieces and I can’t believe how much they charge for them. Seems like they just takes a slice from the middle of a tree and then charge 10x for it! They have hundreds of different pieces some of them 8, 10, 12ft long but I don’t think I’d ever buy one as they want hundreds of dollars per. Most of the ones I saw that looked nice were $350+ That being said I live in NJ and it’s super dense suburban all over so there isn’t a ton of forest around so like others have said, supply and demand. I might be able to drive into PA 2 hours and get the same pieces for next to nothing, who knows.

Here’s the place I’m talking about:
http://www.willardbrothers.net/slab-cuts.html

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#8 posted 09-30-2014 05:34 AM

A 72” piece of 2” cherry, 16” wide or so goes for $125-180 around Louisville. One sawmill operator I know has folks coming from a couple of states over when he gets a big walnut slab.

The question is similar to why walnut costs more than cherry, why curly maple cost more than conventional maple, etc.

-- "Man is the only animal which devours his own, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor." ~Thomas Jefferson

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gfadvm

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#9 posted 10-01-2014 01:32 AM

Wow! I need to move. I cut all my lumber live edged and get from $2-$4 a BF for the hardwoods. Maybe I need to go up on my prices?

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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Gixxerjoe04

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#10 posted 10-01-2014 01:53 AM

Sounds like it’d be worth the drive to your place and stock up and come resell it here haha.

Charles where do you get your lumber at in Louisville? I usually drive up right past Louisville to get mine up in Indiana.

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#11 posted 10-01-2014 02:09 AM

I use three places. Usually Bonesteel in Sellersburg, IN—very close. I also have purchased from Bagdad lumber and from McInturf in Lawrenceburg, KY

-- "Man is the only animal which devours his own, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor." ~Thomas Jefferson

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Gixxerjoe04

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#12 posted 10-01-2014 02:19 AM

I’ve been meaning to go to bagdad but never end up making it. Gone to Lawrenceburg one a couple times for some exotic stuff. But recently just been going to Bonesteel after finding him on Craigslist, def worth the drive over the other 2 places price wise and quality I think, can’t really say anything about bagdad, have just seen his prices.

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CharlesA

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#13 posted 10-01-2014 02:28 AM

Bonesteel is where I go most often. The other have more lumber, especially live edge.

-- "Man is the only animal which devours his own, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor." ~Thomas Jefferson

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#14 posted 10-01-2014 02:35 AM

I cut and dry a lot of live edge slabs that are 2 3/8” thick. I sell them for 1.5 times the price of the 4/4 lumber of the same species.

-- Danny Located in Perry, GA. Forester. Wood-Mizer LT40HD35 Sawmill. Nyle L53 Dehumidification Kiln. hamsleyhardwood.com

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#15 posted 10-01-2014 02:36 AM

Blame George Nakashima!

-- Real_cowtown_eric

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