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SCOTSMAN

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1994 days ago

I have had some beautiful woods with some quite large voids which have renedered them almost unusable for prime projects until recently.I have a laser printer and last time decided to keep the old toner powder and poured it into a plastic container.Now when I get a large, or small void in wood I mix it with epoxy and or some dark wood fibres or on it’s own to a paste and fill the wood cracks or voids this is left to harden and looks amazingly nice when planed and finsihed. Actually beautiful ! You would think it was part of the original tree, try it you wont be dissapointed.Please try first on a small scrap piece if you are anxious about this procedure. Also if the hole is deep fill it first with tissue paper or cotton wool if it is damp and let dry so that you just have a thin film to do to bring it up to the surface.I would advise going slightly proud of the surface as it might shrink back a little MY tip for the week L O L. Alistair

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease


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FlWoodRat

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#1 posted 1994 days ago

Alistair, I’d love to see some pictures of your success with this process. Thanks
Bruce, AKA FLWoodRat

-- I love the smell of sawdust in the morning....

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SCOTSMAN

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#2 posted 1994 days ago

All or most of the stuff I make is done to order for my family and I don’t have anything here but if enough request it I’ll do something on a scrap piece and let you all see it next week or so.Alistair

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

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Sac

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#3 posted 1994 days ago

Very interesting. I would like very much to see a sample as well.

-- Jerry

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Dick, & Barb Cain

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#4 posted 1994 days ago

It must be awful messy, trying to work with that fine powder.

I’d also like to see some pictures.

-- -** You are never to old to set another goal or to dream a new dream ****************** Dick, & Barb Cain, Hibbing, MN. http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/gallery/member.php?uid=3627&protype=1

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cabinetmaster

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#5 posted 1994 days ago

Amen to the pictures. Pictures are like a thousand words. I have taken sanding dust and shavings from the same piece of wood that has the defect, mixed with epoxy and filled the void. Blends in very well. Thanks for the tip.

-- Jerry--A man can never have enough tools or clamps

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Rustic

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#6 posted 1994 days ago

pictures

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WIwoodworker

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#7 posted 1993 days ago

That sounds like an interesting idea. Some folks use sawdust of the same species mixed with epoxy to fill the void and I’ve seen some fill the void with small stones or a leaf and then fill it with clear epoxy. Post a picture. It would be cool to see.

-- Allen, Milwaukee, WI

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SCOTSMAN

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#8 posted 1993 days ago

It’s not messy at all .Please be prudent and don’t try this with expensive clothing ,but taken out of the container with a sppoon and added to the epoxy glue it’s fine and soon mixes to a nice runny paste which pours easily.I have set myself up a challenge with this one and need to get over a serious sore throat and swollen glands so bear with me but it works great also on penmaking when you cut through the wood to the metal I do it on pens with super glue and spray hardner.I will do something next week and take a few pics so watch this space when I am betterLOL kindest regards to my dear friends here.AlistairAlistair

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

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ShannonRogers

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#9 posted 1993 days ago

I smell an excuse for a blog on this process. Hope you feel better Alistair and I can’t wait to see your process.

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Karson

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#10 posted 1993 days ago

I’ve made it a habit to save the chips and sanding dust of some of my pens that I made. So I have black, red, yellow, pink etc.

I’ve used that successfully in fixing pen blanks, but I hadn’t thought of using it in planks. the toner dust also sounds like a great solution.

Thanks.

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

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HeirloomWoodworking

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#11 posted 1992 days ago

In the real world I work on laser printers and digital copiers to pay the bills.

You thought sawdust ruined your clothes and filled your nose full of uglies…you should try breathing toner all day. Studies have told us that it is not dangerous to ingest or clog our lungs with…but I await the day when my doctor gasps as he looks at my chest xray.

And I ruin plenty of clothes with the stuff.

Toner is basically an electrically charged plastic that has been ground into small and consistantly sized particles.

I had never thought of using in woodworking…Great idea! Looking forward to seeing pictures of your application.

in fact I am now thinking of using Alistair’s method to fill holes in my driveway…hehe

-- Trevor Premer Head Termite and Servant to the Queen - Heirloom Woodworking

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John Gray

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#12 posted 1992 days ago

Pictures please?

-- Only the Shadow knows....................

#13 posted 1967 days ago

I too, have had some experience with toner, since in my former life I was called on to solve the problems of all the people working with about 65 computer stations. Although many of them had extensive educational backgrounds in electronics, hydraulics, mechanicals and so forth, most of them seemed to fall apart when they had to do their thinking and work by means of computers. So when their printers ran out of toners, for example, their worlds crashed. And thus it was, I came in contact with the material.

The way toner works is to be electrically deposited on the surface of the paper and then be fused there by heat. It is often wax mixed with carbon black.

I think it would be interesting to see if someone could try this method with the element of carbon black itself rather than toner, because it would give the color without the wax. My point is that the wax may not be completely compatible with the epoxy and, somewhere down the line, be exposed to heat (a pen left in a patch of sunlight for a while, perhaps?) and cause a degradation of the material. I certainly don’t know that and I’m not a chemist. I was just wondering.

It occurs to me, also, that there is a cheap and readily accessable source of colorants that could be mixed with epoxy for varying color effects and there would be no wax in it. Go over to the nearest grocery store and find a powdered dyestuff sold under the name RIT. (There may be other brands in different places in this wide world of cyberspace.) It is cheap and comes in small, inexpensive packets. It’s intended for dying cloth, but I, for one, have had success in using it to dye wood, finding it to be a very strong colorant and have had no unfortunate complications due to incompatibility with finishes.

??? What say you, daring experimenters?

Best regards,

d

-- Will trade wife's yarn for tools.

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