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Forum topic by BrentKistner posted 09-27-2014 10:47 PM 932 views 0 times favorited 10 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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BrentKistner

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09-27-2014 10:47 PM

Topic tags/keywords: accuracy miter saw

Hello, all.

I am upgrading to a 12” slider and am wondering what you all use. I recently bought a Ridgid 12” slider from Home Depot and found out that it just didn’t work out for me. The cut quality was okay at 90 and 45 when set at 0, but when it is titled, the blade(s – I tried 3 different blades to verify that it was the saw itself) tracks badly… 1/8th+ inch in 10 inch wide 3/4 inch thick plywood. Far too sloppy for my taste. That being the main point of dissatisfaction, coupled with the incredibly poor dust collection and absolutely enormous footprint, it just simply isn’t something that I am looking for. So, back it goes.

Anyways, I had a 12” Makita slider years back and it served me wonderfully, till the day I downsized in fact. Is Makita still making an accurate slider? I use a Dewalt 12” at work nearly daily and they seem pretty decent, but still seem to lack a bit on the accuracy side (perhaps this one is worn out?) Hitachi seems to have really great reviews, but I haven’t used one personally. Any others that I should look at around that same price range?

Thank you ahead of time,
Brent.

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ChefHDAN

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#1 posted 09-27-2014 11:03 PM

If I were buying a SCMS I think this would be my only choice, because I know I couldn’t justify the festool one.

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exelectrician

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#2 posted 09-27-2014 11:31 PM

Makita stopped making the 1013 (dead accurate) range and messed it up with the double slide versions that really do no add anything to what was a great saw, strange how that happens.
I got lucky and found one almost unused at a pawn shop, I jumped on that instantly, and sold my worn out 1013 on CL.

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Loren

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#3 posted 09-27-2014 11:33 PM

This one is what Gary Katz was
using before going over to the Festool Kapex. He’s
a working contractor in addition to teaching a lot of
seminars and stuff like that so I’m sure he’s still
using the Bosch saws with his crew. It’s real heavy
but all the 12” sliders are.

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#4 posted 09-27-2014 11:54 PM

I bought a Hitachi C12RSH slider about 2 years ago … been very happy with it. Dead-on accurate. Not exactly ‘portable’ ... weighs in at around 65 pounds.

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#5 posted 09-28-2014 11:23 AM

If absolute accuracy is important, can you get by with a good table saw?

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#6 posted 09-28-2014 03:09 PM

Sometimes you can find old stock stuff on amazon if you look around. I bet you’ve already tried that, but I bought a Makita sander that was taken off the shelves long ago on Amazon. Worth a shot.

Seems a like a good scms is going to mean shelling out some dough. Good Luck

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#7 posted 09-29-2014 01:02 AM

Makita 1013 is no more? Too bad because that was (is) a damn good saw. This was my first major new purchase and it changed a lot of things for the better. Paid for it with part of my share of mid-summer roofing job. Heat was brutal and I was ready to quit when the scaffolding collapsed beneath me, but visions of this saw kept me going.

A question for the OP: why do you want a 12”? A lot more money and a bigger footprint for…? If you can find a Makita 10” I’d jump at it unless you’re feeding yourself with this saw and only 12” will do.

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#8 posted 09-30-2014 07:04 AM

I have the Rigid TS3650. Mine’s about 2 years old now and I’m pretty happy with it, though in my dream shop, it will be replaced with a SawStop cabinet saw. The only knock I’ve got on the TS3650 is the arbor they shipped with mine has a groove cut into the threads just past the 1/8” point, which is precisely where your first chipper sits if you use a dado head. That means that th first chipper cut will be “high” (deeper) than the rest of the cut. One of my applications is to use the Freud Box-Joint two-blade system, so to handle this problem I bought two CMT stabilizers to space my blades out 1/4”, just past this groove, but of course that means I can’t use a 3/4” stack anymore since the arbor isn’t long enough to accommodate the spacers plus 3/4” of dado—but it works fine for my box-joint blades. I’ve heard that Rigid has sent new arbors to some people who complained. I usually use a router to cut dados for shelving, so I mostly just live with (or use a shoulder plane on) the non-uniform bottom if I cut them on the TS. All that said, I’ve got no other complaints about this saw. Woodline and a few other places sell ZC inserts for this saw made from HDPE if you don’t want to make them yourself.

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Henndoe

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#9 posted 09-30-2014 09:58 AM

We have all dewalt at work and there ok if you take some time and them get all squared up. We had the ridged and it was garbage for everyday use. I bought a craftsman 12 inch slider last yr and it was the worst puchase i have ever made. Sold it and got a dewalt 12 inch non slider. Imo if you cant spend at least 700 ish on a slider than dont do it. Ive looked and played with the new bosch and that looks pretty decient too.

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#10 posted 09-30-2014 01:08 PM

Had a 12” Makita at work and when they closed up shop it sold for less than $200 at auction. Really wish I could have been there for that deal, the saw was less than two years old and in great shape.

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