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09-27-2014 06:34 PM

I am replacing the planking on my front porch and stairs. I replaced the stairs about 5 years ago with pressure treated 2×6’s from the big box store and they warped terribly and I don’t like how rounded the edges of them are. Is 84lumber or local yards any better or do I have to bight the bullet and go back to Lowe’s?

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#1 posted 09-27-2014 07:05 PM

It’s all the same SYP junk from the quick grow tree farms.

If you want something that will last don’t cheap out. Buy some Ipe or even Trex.
If you really went to the high dollar stuff you could put down teak.

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#2 posted 09-27-2014 10:04 PM

Stay away from the box stores & buy from an outlet that sells ONLY PT lumber.Their product will show preservative penetration almost to the core. My 6 ft high fence is now 23 years old. I did not paint it hence not one cent of maintenance has been needed over that time span. I should mention that I also used 4” x 6” posts.

Lee

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#3 posted 09-27-2014 10:15 PM

One thing to consider is that the new pressure treated wood is not the same as the older stuff as they changed the formulation. I used some for the decking and found a local lumber yard that sold what they called #1 Pressure Treated which had very few knots. Also, I have sealed the wood before I put it down in a deck. I know this is not recommended but I found that doing this slowed down the drying rate and reduced the warping. I have a back deck which is made from #1 PT 2×6 and it is 16’ x 18’ and all of the boards are still flat and have not had to replace any of them in 10 years.

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#4 posted 09-27-2014 11:18 PM

5/4 can be screwed down flat and won’t warp as much as two by material. I’d just go that route. Or go cedar.

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#5 posted 09-27-2014 11:19 PM

Another heads up: I schlepped home some pressure treated 2x stock last week from the big blue box store for a chainsaw firewood cutting jig. It wasn’t until I got it home that I noticed the tags said “not for ground contact”. WTF? It just so happens that it doesn’t really matter for my purposes this time, but now I have to make sure that my pressure treated lumber doesn’t touch the ground? What’s next? “For interior use only”?

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#6 posted 09-28-2014 05:39 PM

I’m pretty sure “quality PT lumber” is an oxymoron.

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#7 posted 09-28-2014 08:39 PM

High quality and PT lumber are mutually exclusive.

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#8 posted 10-15-2017 02:39 AM

I recently built a new deck on our home and purchased #1 PT lumber in 12’ 6×6 and 16’ 2×12 from a local small lumberyard. It was incredibly straight with great grain patterns. It is now about 10 months later and there is zero deflection. It was only about 20% more expensive than the box stores. The name of the yard is Hoke lumber in Davidson, NC. Perhaps you could contact them and find out who their supplier is and locate some locally.

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#9 posted 10-15-2017 02:55 AM

Alder is the best.

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#10 posted 10-15-2017 01:52 PM



I recently built a new deck on our home and purchased #1 PT lumber in 12 6×6 and 16 2×12 from a local small lumberyard. It was incredibly straight with great grain patterns. It is now about 10 months later and there is zero deflection. It was only about 20% more expensive than the box stores. The name of the yard is Hoke lumber in Davidson, NC. Perhaps you could contact them and find out who their supplier is and locate some locally.

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#11 posted 10-15-2017 01:55 PM

not sure if KDAT is available in decking, but that would be the better choice.

My lumber place has an elite primed PT which I am about to try for some trim.

As others said, big box are good for nothing in PT

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#12 posted 10-15-2017 02:38 PM

I build lots of decks and would never us PT for the surface, I would suggest you use a weather resistant wood like cedar, redwood or cypress.

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#13 posted 10-15-2017 02:45 PM

I wouldn’t use trex or any of those composites unless it was free. I’ve seen so many that molded over time and time again.

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#14 posted 10-16-2017 12:53 AM

There has always been at least two grades of pressure treated lumber – well at least the last 40 years I have worked with it. It simply isn’t cost effective to saturate every piece of lumber that is used outside to the point it can survive permanent ground contact. If you go to the very best pressure treated lumber sources, you will still find at least two grades. I have replaced the planking on several decks and the damage is seldom due to rot. It is always due to splitting, splintering, cupping or twisting. A higher preservative concentration won’t prevent those problems.

Nowdays, I don’t think any treated lumber short of cresote will prevent support posts from rotting. Since CCA use has been restricted or banned, current alternatives are not as effective. This is true whether the material is bought at a lumber yard or Home Depot.


Another heads up: I schlepped home some pressure treated 2x stock last week from the big blue box store for a chainsaw firewood cutting jig. It wasn t until I got it home that I noticed the tags said “not for ground contact”. WTF? It just so happens that it doesn t really matter for my purposes this time, but now I have to make sure that my pressure treated lumber doesn t touch the ground? What s next? “For interior use only”?

- Picklehead


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#15 posted 10-16-2017 01:01 AM

About 10-15 years ago, I built my 12×16 deck with #1 PT wood. It was free of knots, cracks and was straight. Though still damp, I coated it with Thompson’s water seal and secured with deck screws. The decking was all 2×6 material and today still has no cracks, splits or warps.

At least in my case, there was a huge difference in PT quality.

Unfortunately, the new Thompson’s water seal is pretty useless.

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