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09-25-2014 02:07 PM

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I just ordered the Grizzly G0654 jointer – https://www.grizzly.com/products/6-x-46-Jointer/G0654. Specs say it comes in a single cardboard box weighing 236 pounds. I didn’t opt for lift gate service based on my prior experience moving a comparable package myself (I got a 250+ lb R4512 table saw from Home Depot to my house, by myself, in a Toyota Camry) but now I’m wondering if I should have.

I don’t know what to expect in terms of the delivery truck – is this thing likely to be delivered in a truck that’s really high off the ground? If it’s delivered in a truck bed about as high as a pickup I’m reasonable confident I can get it down myself, with or without the driver’s or a friend’s help. But if it’s delivered in a semi with no ramp, that might be a different story.

I do have a mid-sized SUV (Hyundai Santa Fe), so I was thinking I could either back the SUV up to the truck and push the box into the back of my car, or else just pick up the box at the freight depot where (hopefully) someone would help me load it into my car. From there, I could either push it out onto sawhorses, carefully slide it down from the back of the car, or just unbox it in the car and move it piece-by-piece to my shop.

If this were a 500 lb table saw, no question I’d get lift gate service. Alternatively, if this were a 150 lb machine (or something shipping in two smaller boxes) no question I wouldn’t need lift gate service. But at 236 lbs, this is right on the border of what I’m comfortable handling myself, and I don’t know if it’s worth calling Grizzly and paying the extra $40 for the lift gate.

Thoughts?

-- Dan in Minneapolis, woodworking since 11/11.


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#1 posted 09-25-2014 02:21 PM

I’ve never had machinery delivered., but here are a couple things to keep in mind. First, I have the older model of that jointer and I wrangle it around the shop on my own. If just getting it off the truck is your concern, it will most likely come in a standard freight truck, though I don’t know if they will unload it into the terminal or not (I would assume so, but again, never done it). I am sure others who have done this before will chime in, but I wouldn’t be overly worried about it, but maybe take something a little larger than a camry, as the box will be longer than 46” which will likely make closing the doors tough-to-impossible (I just did this with a lathe).

I personally plan to do liftgate any time I order larger machinery as it is just easier and I have a found in several cases that when I try to save a few bucks, I get in the middle of it and start thinking “I would pay twice what they asked to not have to do this right now”.

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#2 posted 09-25-2014 02:31 PM

When I ordered the equipment for my new shop my son in law was living with me. He’s 6ft 3in and weighs 300 lbs. He was a good football player and weight lifter and there ain’t an ounce of fat on him. My stuff did come in a liftgate truck but he was still mighty helpful.

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#3 posted 09-25-2014 02:33 PM

Ripthorn – if I do pick it up, it would be in the Santa Fe. Or if it were delivered, I was thinking maybe I could push it from the back of the delivery truck into the back of the Santa Fe (assuming it would be too difficult to get down to the ground).

-- Dan in Minneapolis, woodworking since 11/11.

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#4 posted 09-25-2014 03:05 PM

I think if you had someone helping you, it’s doable. Are you sure that it would fit in the Santa Fe? What are the box dimensions? I have a pickup truck, but if I didn’t, I’d find someone who did, and provide pizza/beer to share once the item was delivered. That right there is approaching $40, but, you get pizza and beer.

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#5 posted 09-25-2014 03:08 PM

Not IMHO. 236# is fairly manageable in a box for a strong young guy in good shape. Long and thin is easier to manage than big and square….it’ll have your attention, but it’s very doable. There’s a decent chance the truck will have a lift gate….2 out of 3 of my deliveries came with lift gate, even though I didn’t request it. It’s different every time, and you can’t count on it unless requested. But if not, there’s decent chance the driver will help you set it on a cart, pickup bed, back of a Sante Fe, minivan, etc.

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#6 posted 09-25-2014 03:08 PM

Ed – Shipping dimensions are 49×23x16. I’m 99% sure that would fit in a Santa Fe with the backseats folded down. Unfortunately, I don’t know anyone with a pickup truck.

Scott – That’s pretty much exactly what I was thinking.

-- Dan in Minneapolis, woodworking since 11/11.

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#7 posted 09-25-2014 03:18 PM

When I was 18 I would have lifted it down and carried it in, now Im 53 with a bad back I would get the tail lift.
If you pop a disc in your back saving $40 you will pay a tail lift in future and smile doing it.

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#8 posted 09-25-2014 03:18 PM

It MIGHT fit into your SantaFe, but that semi deck will be MUCH higher then the deck of your car. At that angle, I doubt you will be able to slide it across from one to the other. But 2 strong guys could probably lift it from the semi, lower it, and THEN slide it into yours.

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#9 posted 09-25-2014 03:26 PM

Hmmmm… not sure if I can wrangle a friend to hang out with me waiting for this thing to arrive, since I doubt I’ll get a window more precise than before or after noon. But if they’ll help me load it into my car at the freight depot, I could just go pick it up. I can get it from my car to my shop on my own.

I’m 35 and in reasonably good shape/relatively strong, but I do get back pain now and then :-(.

-- Dan in Minneapolis, woodworking since 11/11.

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#10 posted 09-25-2014 03:27 PM

If it’s like my tablesaw it’s going to come in a standard 18 wheeler kind of trailer (not as long, but just as high.)

Seems like you might be taking some risk to lower it from there to the ground, considering that it’s not likely to be well balanced and you’ll be lowering it 3 feet or so to the ground. It won’t be a slide from the trailer in to your car sort of situation.

I’d be surprised if the delivery person did any more than they are obligated to, only from a liability viewpoint but it’s possible you might get lucky. Without paying for a liftgate delivery it’s possible that the trailer might not have a lift on it at all whether or not the delivery person is inclined to give you a helping hand.

Just things to consider.

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#11 posted 09-25-2014 03:30 PM

If the delivery truck shows up and I’m not able to get it down by myself (and the driver doesn’t want to help, which he’s not obligated to do), presumably he’d just truck it back to the depot – right? If so, I suppose I could wait on delivery, see if I can get it out, and if not then go to the depot with my SUV for self-pickup after they unload it from the truck. Seems like kind of a silly approach, but oh well.

I can also measure the back of my car to see how much clearance I’d have sliding it in. I’m envisioning using a piece of plywood as a ramp from the truck bed to the SUV bed to help with the angle, but that might be crazy.

-- Dan in Minneapolis, woodworking since 11/11.

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#12 posted 09-25-2014 03:32 PM

I have bought three tools from the Griz. Lift gate for each. The driver used his pallet jack to put each one in my garage. Three separately purchases.

Otherwise the truck wont hve a lift gate and it will be up to you to get it off the back of the truck.

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#13 posted 09-25-2014 03:47 PM

I bought the next model up from that jointer and it came in two boxes, one for the base and one for the jointer. I am surprised that one would come in one big box. I didn’t order the lift gate service, I did back my pick up truck up to the back of the delivery truck and slid the boxes off and onto the bed of my truck, wasn’t that much of a difference in height. The delivery guy helped me do that, although I could have done it myself. I had my girlfriend’s 12 yr old son help me take them off the my truck, I could have handled them myself if they weren’t so awkward. If it does come in two boxes, then any person you can get should be able to help you, even if its a neighbor kid or nephew, son, daughter, etc.

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#14 posted 09-25-2014 03:52 PM

I’ve never picked up something heavy at a warehouse
and not been offered help.

If you’re not sure, call the office at the depot. The
receptionist will probably tell you it’s not going to
be a problem.

A truck without a liftgate usually has a ramp. The
driver is not going to dump it off and break it and
he’s not going to turn around and take it back
and say it couldn’t be unloaded. That’s a waste
of his time and company money.

They carry a pallet jack in the truck. Anything under
500 lbs is not much trouble to move up or down
a truck ramp. When you get into heavier weight
classes it starts to get progressively more never wracking.

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ADHDan

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#15 posted 09-25-2014 03:56 PM


I bought the next model up from that jointer and it came in two boxes, one for the base and one for the jointer. I am surprised that one would come in one big box. I didn t order the lift gate service, I did back my pick up truck up to the back of the delivery truck and slid the boxes off and onto the bed of my truck, wasn t that much of a difference in height. The delivery guy helped me do that, although I could have done it myself. I had my girlfriend s 12 yr old son help me take them off the my truck, I could have handled them myself if they weren t so awkward. If it does come in two boxes, then any person you can get should be able to help you, even if its a neighbor kid or nephew, son, daughter, etc.

- kreitzm

I was a little surprised too, but according to the specs it’s definitely one big box. As another alternative, if the driver doesn’t want to help he is welcome to wait and play on his phone while I unbox the thing in the back of the truck and lower the base and the jointer to the ground or into my car on my own.


I’ve never picked up something heavy at a warehouse
and not been offered help.

If you’re not sure, call the office at the depot. The
receptionist will probably tell you it’s not going to
be a problem.

- Loren

This seems like a very reasonable approach.

-- Dan in Minneapolis, woodworking since 11/11.

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