Sargent 'frankenplane'?

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Forum topic by MikeUT posted 09-19-2014 10:32 PM 891 views 0 times favorited 2 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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09-19-2014 10:32 PM

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I picked this Sargent up today for $10. I think that with a little TLC it will be a good user. When I got it home I started doing a little research as I am new in collecting bench planes. I was pretty sure that it was a Sargent because of the shape of the lateral adjustment but after taking it apart I am a little nervous that it was thrown together with extra parts. The plane is 14” long which makes me think it is a No. 414. When I took it apart I noticed that the frog is stamped with a 409, which is confusing as the 409 is supposed to be a 9” smoothing plane.

The only marking on the body of the plane is the ‘made in the USA’ right behind the frog. The lever cap has no markings and the only difference I see between it and the lever caps on my stanley planes is that it has to ribs on the bottom side.

The blade is the only part of the plane that actually has the Sargent name on it. It says ‘Hercules Sargent and co Made in the USA.’

I’ll post a few photos, let me know what you guys think. I’m not sure if I got a good deal or just a good user. Thanks for the help!

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#1 posted 09-19-2014 10:44 PM

I’m not totally sure but it looks like you have a chip breaker, lever cap and frog from a 409, with a Hercules blade and a 414 body. Still should work just fine, it’s obviously just a blade from the Hercules though, the frogs and bodies were painted green. Here’s a pic of the lever cap and chip breaker from my Hercules. I’m sure DonYoda and the guru’s will be able to tell exactly which parts are from which plane.


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#2 posted 09-19-2014 11:13 PM

The frog says 409 because a 409 frog was also installed on any other Sargent made plane that took a 2” wide cutter.

Simple as that. Instead of having to cast different frog numbers for the same width part. They just made the 409 casting. Simple as that.

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