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Forum topic by KevinsGotWood posted 09-19-2014 02:37 PM 2054 views 0 times favorited 30 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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KevinsGotWood

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09-19-2014 02:37 PM

Topic tags/keywords: jointer powermatic planer

I’m new to this forum, but have been reading all of your posts for about a month or two ago and have learned a LOT from all of you!! thank you! :-) I have been working very hard on a new wood shop in my basement and am excited to get to work on some long awaited projects.

One item I have been on the hunt for is a JOINTER… I found this one local to me for $900. It’s an 8” / 72” Powermatic 60 that is the heavy duty version with the 2 HP motor.
It was used in a furniture making commercial shop, not a hobby shop, so it concerned me with it’s daily use over the last 15 years. It’s a straight knife cutter but the owner assures me that it is set up wonderfully and is smooth as butter…

Is this worth the $900 tag he is asking? I’m sure it could use knew knives or to be sharpened, but that’s to be expected I would assume…
Your thoughts are greatly appreciated!

Kevin


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a1Jim

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#1 posted 09-19-2014 02:39 PM

In my area that jointer would sell for between $450 and $650.

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#2 posted 09-19-2014 02:46 PM


In my area that jointer would sell for between $450 and $650.

- a1Jim


Thank you for the reply already! That’s what I was thinking actually… Just can’t find one for sale :-)
This one looks to be built in Tenn and in 1997, so I was a little wrong on that part.
He did have it up on an ebay sale and it got up to $611, but reserve wasn’t hit. Just found that. So, I know someone was at least willing to spend $611 :-) And, from what I’ve been reading, I think you may be close on the value – however I AM on the east coast… $900 may be a bit much unless it had light use or something extra to compensate for that price tag request…

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Nubsnstubs

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#3 posted 09-19-2014 02:57 PM

If you feel it’s worth it, then get it if you can’t find the same quality for less. If you live on the east coast, and there is a lot of jointers on the west coast selling for $300, what good does that do you? Just saying.
Powermatic jointers are good machines. I would be more concerned about the motor not matching up to your power supply, as in single or 3 phase and 110 – 220 volts.
I’ve had a 6” powermatic jointer since the 1900’s, about ‘88, and the only thing I’ve done is change the knives. It’s been sitting outdoors since 92 under an inadiquate roof. It has never failed me…........ Jerry (in Tucson)

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SamuraiSaw

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#4 posted 09-19-2014 03:09 PM

That’s a decent price, but certainly try to negotiate a better one.. A new model will run close to $2K. Take a long straight edge and make sure the tables are coplanar. As long as there is no vibration when it runs, and no growling or grinding noises when it spins down, you’re in good shape. That’s a top quality industrial machine and designed for years of continuous use. I wouldn’t be too concerned about it’s history if everything checks out.

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KevinsGotWood

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#5 posted 09-19-2014 03:24 PM

Jerry – I have the ability to wire it however I want actually because I am installing a new subpanel specific to the shop and I’m wiring around my equipment. So, that part is a plus as I can work around a 220v unit if needed. I guess I should check if it’s a single or three phase motor however…
Thanks for your words! I am very serious about getting this one. I recently purchased a ton of tools from an estate sale that are worth about triple what I paid. Hand tools, power tools, old hand planes, etc… So, I guess if I got burned $200 – $300 I wouldn’t feel so bad – Haha :-)


If you feel it s worth it, then get it if you can t find the same quality for less. If you live on the east coast, and there is a lot of jointers on the west coast selling for $300, what good does that do you? Just saying.
Powermatic jointers are good machines. I would be more concerned about the motor not matching up to your power supply, as in single or 3 phase and 110 – 220 volts.
I ve had a 6” powermatic jointer since the 1900 s, about 88, and the only thing I ve done is change the knives. It s been sitting outdoors since 92 under an inadiquate roof. It has never failed me…........ Jerry (in Tucson)

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waho6o9

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#6 posted 09-19-2014 03:27 PM

http://www.southern-tool.com/store/oliver-8inch-jointer.php

For around twice as much +/- a little bit you can have a new Oliver.

Is the Powermatic worth his asking price? I’m not sure, but when
one purchases value the item tends to hold it’s integrity. As mentioned
above it’s co-planar and no unusual noises you should be good to go.

Technical Service
1.800.274.6846 – 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. (CST, Monday – Friday)
^ Powermatics tech support for pertinent questions.

Good luck now.

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KevinsGotWood

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#7 posted 09-19-2014 03:27 PM

Excellent point! Thanks so much for your reply. I’m really close to pulling the trigger. He definitely will not take less. He has someone that is buying a bunch of other big tools from him and bundling this with the deal will help him out somehow. So, he wouldn’t accept $800 from me when I mentioned it the first time. Who knows what he will say if I wait a little bit. However, I don’t want to miss out on it as this is one of the last 8” PM models made in the USA I believe (1997)... I believe they were outsourced after that? I’m just learning on this part..


That s a decent price, but certainly try to negotiate a better one.. A new model will run close to $2K. Take a long straight edge and make sure the tables are coplanar. As long as there is no vibration when it runs, and no growling or grinding noises when it spins down, you re in good shape. That s a top quality industrial machine and designed for years of continuous use. I wouldn t be too concerned about it s history if everything checks out.

- SamuraiSaw


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#8 posted 09-19-2014 03:45 PM

Not commenting on the actual value of the machine, since I’m of no help there, but in the deal in general…

If you decide $800 is a fair price, stick to it. If he doesn’t end up bundling it with the other items, he may take $800. He may not. You could let him know that if he decides he’d rather have $800 cash, that you’ll swing by. He may lose more money bundling it with the other items than he would if he sold you the jointer for $800 and lowered the cost of the other items a bit.


However, I don t want to miss out on it as this is one of the last 8” PM models made in the USA I believe (1997).

While that may be cool, does it matter to you? Sounds like you’re looking for a quality jointer at a fair price. Not a piece of history. The quality of the jointer, and the context in which it falls in relation to other jointers of similar heritage would be moot. It’s a good jointer, or it’s not. If you think it’d be cool to own the last of a dying breed, by all means, pay for it. And perhaps those jointers fetch a higher price, and maintain resale value, because of that fact, and that’s completely fair. But if you’re just looking for a tool that works well, you can get one without paying extra for the side story.

-- - The mightiest oak in the forest is just a little nut that held its ground.

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dlgWoodWork

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#9 posted 09-19-2014 03:53 PM

You can get a new Grizzly 8” with 3hp motor for $845 with a mobile base. I know its not a Powermatic, but it’s brand new and comes with a warranty. In my opinion $900 is too much for that used jointer. But in the end, only you can make that call.

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#10 posted 09-19-2014 04:01 PM

If not having a jointer is holding you back from doing things
you want to do, I don’t think fussing over whether
it’s a little more than you want to pay is worth it.
$900 is high for my area too but we do know that
used machine prices vary a lot regionally.

Really you can get by with a contractor saw and
a benchtop planer for a long time while looking for
the right upgrades on the used market, but an
8” jointer is what it is. I feel a 6” jointer is adequate
for most furniture and cabinet making and I’ve
been in productive pro shops where a 6” is
what they use, but if if the extra capacity of
a larger machine strikes you as a feature you’ll
enjoy, I think you should go for it.

That said, a lot of woodworkers are happy with the
imported machines and the prices and shipping
terms can be very agreeable.

A screaming deal will come your way sooner or
later if you keep an eye out… and then there
are the ones that get away :(

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SamuraiSaw

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#11 posted 09-19-2014 04:07 PM

That grizzly in no way compares with the PM…........

I wouldn’t even consider it

-- Artisan Woodworks of Texas.... www.awwtx.com

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KevinsGotWood

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#12 posted 09-19-2014 04:15 PM

Love the comments!! And, it looks like this forum has some viewers! Lots of replies in such a short period of time. Wow! Thank you!!!!

I do think the $900 is high now that I’ve looked into things and considered these comments. But I guess value IS subjective in every case. ;-) I’m with Ed on this one :-)

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KevinsGotWood

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#13 posted 09-19-2014 04:16 PM

WOW – that’s nice!!! 2K though… ouch.


http://www.southern-tool.com/store/oliver-8inch-jointer.php

For around twice as much +/- a little bit you can have a new Oliver.

Is the Powermatic worth his asking price? I m not sure, but when
one purchases value the item tends to hold it s integrity. As mentioned
above it s co-planar and no unusual noises you should be good to go.

Technical Service
1.800.274.6846 – 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. (CST, Monday – Friday)
^ Powermatics tech support for pertinent questions.

Good luck now.

- waho6o9


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dbray45

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#14 posted 09-19-2014 05:35 PM

May want to check this out before you buy

https://www.grizzly.com/outlet/8-Jointer-w-2-HP-Motor/G0586

$575

-- David in Damascus, MD

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KevinsGotWood

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#15 posted 09-19-2014 07:01 PM

Isn’t this one discontinued?


May want to check this out before you buy

https://www.grizzly.com/outlet/8-Jointer-w-2-HP-Motor/G0586

$575

- dbray45


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