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Forum topic by Dradave posted 09-18-2014 07:22 PM 928 views 0 times favorited 12 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Dradave

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09-18-2014 07:22 PM

Folks, I’m a long time lurker and hobbyist woodworker and I have found this site extremely informatvie and enjoyable.Due to my work schedule though I haven’t had much time lately. Now that that’s been said, I have a question that I know can be answered by the community.

I have a 14” BAS350 Craftsman bandsaw that is a Rikon 10-321 clone. I have a project where I need to use a blade that is narrower than what the manual reccommends. The specs are a blade width of 1/4 to 3/4 widths. I would like to use a 3/16 blade but wonder if they are any gotchas in doing this. I am unsure if they are safety concerns or if it just won’t work due the guide system. Both top and lower guides are roller bearings.

I’m new to bandsaws so any help and guidance will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks…


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UpstateNYdude

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#1 posted 09-18-2014 07:42 PM

If there is a crown on the tires it may present a problem tracking the blade.

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Surfside

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#2 posted 09-18-2014 09:05 PM

14” band saws can accommodate 1/4” , 1/8” and 3/16” band saw blade.

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Dradave

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#3 posted 09-19-2014 02:42 AM

Yes, it’s a crowned tire, I hadn’t thought of that.

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Loren

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#4 posted 09-19-2014 02:55 AM

If the teeth run against the roller bearings it can dull
them quickly, just like steel guide blocks will.

If it is possible you may be able to fit the saw
with “cool blocks” which are phenolic blocks that
are much softer than steel and they can actually
be “closed up” around the blade to support
a narrow blade.

Otherwise, the roller bearings must be backed
off so they won’t contact the teeth. If you
are careful otherwise in making sure the blade
is tracking well this approach may be adequate.

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AlaskaGuy

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#5 posted 09-19-2014 07:34 AM

I have one of these and they work as advertised. For blades 1/4 and under.

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Yonak

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#6 posted 09-19-2014 01:10 PM



If there is a crown on the tires it may present a problem tracking the blade.

- UpstateNYdude

Nick, please explain how the crown could cause a problem with tracking of a narrower blade. I wasn’t aware of that.

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Gene Howe

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#7 posted 09-19-2014 01:16 PM

Not Nick but, I’ll offer an opinion re: the crown and narrow blades. It might be possible that blades narrower than 1/4 could ride off the crown to one side or the other. Although, my tires are crowned and I run 1/8 blades successfully.

The carter guide would be worth a try.

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Yonak

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#8 posted 09-19-2014 01:28 PM


Not Nick but, I ll offer an opinion re: the crown and narrow blades. It might be possible that blades narrower than 1/4 could ride off the crown to one side or the other. Although, my tires are crowned and I run 1/8 blades successfully.

The carter guide would be worth a try.

- Gene Howe

Yes, I understand that’s what Nick was indicating, but I’m wondering why. I had not heard that before and I was wondering if there is any explanation or evidence.

I had always thought that a properly set crown, being smoothly graded, would be able to handle even the narrowest band saw blades.

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Kelly

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#9 posted 09-19-2014 03:29 PM

My 14” tires are crowned and I run 3/16, 4TIP on a Carter Stabillizer OR my standard bearing guides just fine.

That’s what the set ups are for – to allow you to adjust for the blade you are running. If your guides are dulling your blades, you need to re-familiarize yourself with your band saw set up routines.

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Dradave

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#10 posted 09-19-2014 06:44 PM

I’m off to Woodcraft to by a 3/16 blade. I’ll try it making sure to follow all the suggestions presented here. I think I have the setup routine down so I’ll be extra dilligent in doing so. I knew I could count on you guys.

Thanks so much…

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SCOTSMAN

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#11 posted 09-19-2014 08:03 PM

I would worry that they potentially may cut into the tires. Alistair

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Dradave

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#12 posted 09-21-2014 07:27 PM

The local expert at Woodcraft said there shouldn’t be a problem as long as I setup the guides properly. Of course they didn’t have the blade in stock so I ordered one from Timber Wolf. I’ll give it a shot.

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