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Forum topic by Martin Sojka posted 12-14-2006 02:27 PM 4302 views 0 times favorited 16 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Martin Sojka

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12-14-2006 02:27 PM

Gary and Scott started good discussion about having the place to list the trading options – like wood.. and I think tools, hardware as well.

Feel free to discuss this idea here. Just adding new dedicated forum under our Forums would be sufficient? Any ideas about naming this? Trading tends to sound more like commodites trading ;) etc. So post any comments, suggestions here, please.


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Dick, & Barb Cain

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#1 posted 12-14-2006 03:30 PM

Maybe you could call it ”The Scrap Bin”

-- -** You are never to old to set another goal or to dream a new dream ****************** Dick, & Barb Cain, Hibbing, MN. http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/gallery/member.php?uid=3627&protype=1

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#2 posted 12-14-2006 04:54 PM

I like “The Scrap Bin”, how about “Barter With A Lumberjock”. Or is that to close to trading? jockmike2

-- (You just have to please the man in the Mirror) Mike from Michigan -

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#3 posted 12-14-2006 11:10 PM

I was just in the shop and had the old light bullb come on so before I lost it, which is quite easy for this ole boy to do I thought I’d better getter down. How bought “Lets Make A Deal, With A Lumberjock.” or maybe not, just a thought. mike

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Gary

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#4 posted 12-15-2006 12:01 AM

Martin,
Have I ever said thanks for hosting this place? Not formally. Thanks!

Whatever it’s called, make it unambiguous and KIS. ;-)

Be really nice to have an automatically maintained database wherein we could upload our
offers and wants. Maybe design it so that there’s a quantity attribute, start date, and end
date. IF either of those are populated, then obtaining against someone’s quantity would
reserve that amount and when the owner commits that amount, the available amount updates.
If there are dates, when the end date is reached the record is deleted.
Kinda heavy design on the front end to make using it easier over the long haul.

Or not?!?

Gary

-- Gary, Florida. http://www.penturners.org/forum/f70/servicepens-2014-a-111967/

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scottb

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#5 posted 12-15-2006 01:23 AM

Yes, certainly something simple (from the user experience) to avoid endless e-mails, or updating… avoid the endless phone calls that come from the “Freebie” sections of the classifieds. “do you still have the _?”

The post office has two different, approx shoebox size boxes, that will ship for anywhere in the US for $7.20 regardless of weight. Perhaps not the best thing for a cabinet, but a nice boon to turners, or those of us looking for smallish accent pieces.

Did I just open up a big can o worms or what?

For the record, I’ve got maple saplings popping up like weeds!

-- I am always doing what I cannot do yet, in order to learn how to do it. - Van Gogh -- http://blanchardcreative.etsy.com -- http://snbcreative.wordpress.com/

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#6 posted 12-15-2006 07:24 AM

Could (or should?) we establish… or at least agree upon what could be deemed common enough in one neck of the woods, but “exotic” enough that you couldn’t easily find it in another.

I’m sure there’s enough information in a book somewhere, and we could be looking at re-inventing the wheel…. but I’ve got a firewood pile full of oak, ash and maple, with some cherry mixed in. The neighbors would think nothing of burning the lot, yet I see some interesting pieces… and I wonder if others among our numbers have some intersting hardwoods, that are all too common in their neck of the woods.

-- I am always doing what I cannot do yet, in order to learn how to do it. - Van Gogh -- http://blanchardcreative.etsy.com -- http://snbcreative.wordpress.com/

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Don

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#7 posted 12-26-2006 12:56 AM

How about a simple forum title of BUY/SWAP/SELL?

-- CanuckDon "I just love small wooden boxes!" http://www.dpb-photos.com/

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scottb

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#8 posted 12-26-2006 06:41 AM

Well Don, that just about hits the nail on the head. Shouldn’t have taken us two weeks to get that one – surely we could come up with something more vague. :)

We could take a tip from the Barter section of Yankee magazine and when we put up our own items… list the item
for example ”# BF 4/4 ” will trade for “equal quantity of _” or what have you?
we can be as descriptive as possible, post pictures… or even offer up a Dollar amount per foot/piece or what we’d trade for…

I’m kind of thinking of a simple Swap Meet sort of place, but I’m sure there’ll be a time when someone might not have something to trade for. Some of us have a full shed or barn of goodies, and some of us are destroying our own homes and furniture to feed the habit.

-- I am always doing what I cannot do yet, in order to learn how to do it. - Van Gogh -- http://blanchardcreative.etsy.com -- http://snbcreative.wordpress.com/

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Obi

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#9 posted 12-26-2006 03:37 PM

Well they have E-bay, and E-trade … do I see an E-stick or E-wood in the future? Why don’t we start soliciting for a name, people can vote on their favorite and then Martin can post the winner? There can be shipping charges discussed … this has the makings of a great idea. Finally people wood* have a place to buy and sell their goods. (Pun intended)

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Obi

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#10 posted 12-26-2006 03:38 PM

Maybe the Wood Bin?

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Obi

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#11 posted 12-26-2006 03:38 PM

or the Wood Pile?

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#12 posted 12-26-2006 04:35 PM

Sounds to me like this is starting to get to be anything but simple. I think Martin’s initial thought was to have a part of the forum entitled, “For Trade” (or something similar), where people could post items they’d be willing to trade for or things or services they’d be willing to trade.

Each item/entry would have its own thread. The person starting the thread would be responsible for the last entry of that thread, stating they have completed the trade or are no longer interested – that would be the way to make sure you don’t continue getting e-mails from people long after the fact. (Martin, maybe you could even set up privileges so that the person creating the thread has the ability to close that thread, thus making it a definitive statement of closure?)

It doesn’t need a fancy title or long descriptions or flashing signs or red shiny buttons to push. There is no need for shipping guidelines – that can be determined by the two parties entering in the trade agreement. It should be a section of the forum, just like any other, plain and simple and not a lot of hassle. I think if it is much more than that, then people won’t use it.

I think the original intention was for members to trade tools and equipment and wood (and I think we could possibly even throw services, such as plane tuning or chisel sharpening, in the mix as well). Creating a marketplace for members of woodjocks.com to “sell their wares”, which is how I think a few people are interpreting this, is something completely different.

I’d be quite interested in the former and not nearly as interested in the latter, which involves much more than just creating a forum and waiting for the customers to pour in. Unfortunately, the whole “if you build it, they will come” doesn’t really work outside of Hollywood – a marketplace would require much more work and time and energy, especially by such people as Martin, to make it successful.

In the latest issue of Woodworker’s Journal, I found very little to excite me. But there was one article I completely absorbed, and will probably find myself reading a few more times. It was an interview with Lie-Nielsen in which he discussed how he got started and how he continues to be a powerful force in the woodworking tool industry. One thing he was sure to point out and reiterate was that he never tries to grow too quickly. He ony intruduced one new plane a year for many years. Now, he only introduces one or two new tools a year. He feels that is something very important that has kept his company in business. I suggest we take a similar attitude

-- Ethan, http://thekiltedwoodworker.com

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Martin Sojka

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#13 posted 12-26-2006 08:18 PM

Ethan, you hit the nail on the head. I want to keep things simple and improve/replace down the road. Special forum will definitely be great start. So we just need to find the right name for it – all of the ones mentioned above are very good tips. I’d like to have something with a twist like our Sweating For Bucks forum – that was Mark’s idea.

So just keep it simple guys and we will improve later. I have lots on my list right now.. the top priority is comments and replies editing etc. Ethan, your insight about Lie-Nielsen is right.

I’d like to add this new forum this week, so we have something fresh for the 2007 ;)

Thanks for all replies so far.

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Gary

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#14 posted 12-31-2006 06:40 PM

On IAP, when a trade/buy-sell is over, the OP edits the title and adds CLOSED.
That leaves the thread there for all to see what’s transpired while informing everyone
that the actual transaction deal-making is complete.

Gary

-- Gary, Florida. http://www.penturners.org/forum/f70/servicepens-2014-a-111967/

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WannaBBetter

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#15 posted 04-19-2013 01:59 PM

Soooo what ever happened to this idea of selling/swaping?

-- I cut it three times and it's still too short

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