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Shawn

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09-09-2014 05:06 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question dust collector filter air quality wynn environmental

I have the Harbor Freight dust collector and thought about upgrading the filter to the Wynn filter. My question is this… If my dust collector is in a closet with a filtered return to the shop do I need the Wynn filter? If the collector is just sitting out in the open shop I can understand having a better filter, but if it’s closed up in a closet and the air is filtered before it enters back into the shop do I really need the Wynn? I know it will provide more surface area and that will increase air flow, but my main concern is air quality. What do you guys say?

-- -Shawn


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TheDane

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#1 posted 09-09-2014 05:23 PM

I suppose it would depend on the filtration you have from the closet back to the shop. How fine of a dust particle does your filter setup catch?

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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Shawn

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#2 posted 09-09-2014 05:42 PM

That’s the thing, Gerry, I’m not sure as I don’t have everything setup yet. I’m in the process of getting it all together. I just don’t want the expense of a Wynn filter if I really don’t need one. I can use good filters in my air return system from the closet and if that doesn’t work I guess I could always invest in the Wynn. I wanted to make sure I’m not missing something or if there is any other reason I should consider the Wynn in my particular situation. Thanks!

-- -Shawn

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#3 posted 09-09-2014 06:39 PM

You need to be sure you provide enough filter surface not to create back pressure in the closet that can degrade the suction of the dust collector. Some of the microfilters used for AC systems may cost you $10 or more per filter and it may take 2 or 3 of them to give you unrestricted air flow. Then the other thing is; how often will those filters need to be replaced? The Wynn filter may come out cheaper in the long run. Just something to think about.

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bondogaposis

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#4 posted 09-09-2014 06:54 PM

The Wynn filter is 10 times more efficient that the HF bag, not only that, it will increase the performance of the system because of the greater surface area. Your return air filter will have a lot more more work to do to catch everything that the HF bag let’s through. It would be a no-brainer for me to get the Wynn filter.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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Shawn

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#5 posted 09-09-2014 06:55 PM

Good point, WhyMe! I appreciate the feedback. I was thinking about using 20×20 filters because that’s what my air filtration device will use.

-- -Shawn

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#6 posted 09-09-2014 07:36 PM

When bought my HFDC was the best bang for the money with a Wynn filter canister. DC came with totally useless 30 micron bags. Have no idea what kind of bags come with that DC today. See where Wynn has raised their prices but would buy one again if needed too.

-- Bill

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#7 posted 09-09-2014 09:35 PM

I decided to go the separator route before upgrading the filter bag. From my research the Wynn filter will become clogged and just seems like a waste of a filter. It’s somewhat similar to the shopvac issue of not using a bag,... the filter will get clogged which causes havoc down the line. I’m setting up a separator so most of the dust gets caught before it even reaches the dust collector.

If you went with a separator it might limit the amount of dust that gets to the dust collector which then leads to less that makes it to the return filter.

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#8 posted 09-09-2014 10:21 PM

Not to mention removing particles down to .1 to .5 microns vs. the standard 5 micron bag with poor flow.
I use the Thien Cylcone, as well.

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Scott C.

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#9 posted 09-10-2014 12:23 AM

If you go the Wyn route, I would recommend making a baffle to mount the filter to. While it will fit into the rim of the collector, the sheet metal is thin and the turn buckles will bend it a little causing leaks around the rim, and it will spew a surprising amount of dust out.

-- measure twice, cut once, swear and start over.

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timbertailor

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#10 posted 09-10-2014 01:38 PM



If you go the Wyn route, I would recommend making a baffle to mount the filter to. While it will fit into the rim of the collector, the sheet metal is thin and the turn buckles will bend it a little causing leaks around the rim, and it will spew a surprising amount of dust out.

- Scott C.

Do you have a photo?

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#11 posted 09-10-2014 01:51 PM

Here’s what I did for my Wynn…...I have an old Delta 50-850 d.c. that I’ve had for 20 years…..About 3 years ago I decided to get the Wynn Canister (after much discussion on here about it)....I made a ‘doughnut” for ir out of plywood….Cut the inside hole a little larger than the rubber seal around the bottom of the filter…The old Delta ’s convex on the inside rim, and all the dust and chips just slide down into the bag…..I used about 3 small clamps to hold the canister down, the rubber seal prevents any fine dust from escaping, and it all goes into the plastic bag…...Every now and then I “pat” the filter, or blow it out with an air hose, it all falls into the bag, and prevents clogging, which I’ve never had an issue with…....Here’s a few shots of my setup…....

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RobS888

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#12 posted 09-10-2014 04:28 PM

We replaced our Delta DC’s 1 micron bag with a Wynn cartridge in May. The reduction in dust around the house is amazing.

We changed an under stair bathroom to a DC closet. We primed it twice and caulked any joints/seams/gaps we could see, but still it got around the house. Not any more, definitely worth the money.

-- I always suspected many gun nuts were afraid of something, just never thought popcorn was on the list.

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#13 posted 09-10-2014 05:39 PM



I decided to go the separator route before upgrading the filter bag. From my research the Wynn filter will become clogged and just seems like a waste of a filter. It s somewhat similar to the shopvac issue of not using a bag,... the filter will get clogged which causes havoc down the line. I m setting up a separator so most of the dust gets caught before it even reaches the dust collector.

If you went with a separator it might limit the amount of dust that gets to the dust collector which then leads to less that makes it to the return filter.


The filter is for your health. The separator is for your laziness.

The filter will take small, dangerous particles out of the air you breath. It’s important, really, really important. .5 micron.

The separator will cut down on how much work you have to do to empty the chips and dust. It will cut down on how often you have to clean your filter. It will negatively affect your filtration.

It’s important that your filter doesn’t become clogged. If you have trouble remembering or taking the time to clean your filter than a separator may be more important to you, but no where near as important as having .5 micron filtering in the first place.

Get a filter. Then figure out if it’s really helpful enough to you to make emptying the bag and cleaning the filter less work for you to be worth the loss in suction the separator would get you. If it does, go for it.

But only AFTER you get a good filter.

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