LumberJocks

Restoring Hand Saws

  • Advertise with us

« back to Hand Tools forum

Forum topic by Grump2 posted 09-07-2014 10:37 PM 1346 views 0 times favorited 17 replies Add to Favorites Watch
View Grump2's profile

Grump2

9 posts in 818 days


09-07-2014 10:37 PM

I have this saw that I am restoring among others. I was wondering if anyone out there knows the manufacture of this saw. There are no clear markings or medallions. This is a 30” 8tpi saw and that is all of the information that I have. This saw has been in the family for years and I have nobody to ask. If you have a suggestions of how to identify saws such as a good website I am all ears. I have attached some images hopefully they show up. Please forgive me I am very new to blogging.

-- Bill


17 replies so far

View chrisstef's profile

chrisstef

15658 posts in 2467 days


#1 posted 09-07-2014 10:43 PM

Hmm. I dont see any pics bill. Use the img button above the text box. Im interested in seeing the saw and hopefully we can peg it for ya. A 30” saw is a beast!

-- rock, chalk, jayhawk

View Grump2's profile

Grump2

9 posts in 818 days


#2 posted 09-08-2014 01:48 AM

Thanks for the tip Chrisstef, I didn’t think that I had to also click insert after choosing a file.

-- Bill

View chrisstef's profile

chrisstef

15658 posts in 2467 days


#3 posted 09-08-2014 12:34 PM

There were a bunch of makers who did the carving in that style and without a medallion its tough to say. Do you have any pictures of the plate? Any markings at all on the plate? Any stamps? As a WAG I might want to lean towards a disston D23 or a hardware store brand saw that used to have a warrented superior medallion on it.

It looks like a beech handle but that really doesn’t narrow it down too too much lol.

-- rock, chalk, jayhawk

View Grump2's profile

Grump2

9 posts in 818 days


#4 posted 09-08-2014 02:15 PM

Smitty

Thanks for the input. I have uploaded the saw assembled and blade only. There isn’t any other markings. I did point to where I believe a marked medallion should have been located.

I did look up the D23 however that saw had 5 medallions whereas mine has only 4.

-- Bill

View summerfi's profile

summerfi

3315 posts in 1148 days


#5 posted 09-08-2014 03:00 PM

Bill, that saw looks an awfully lot like a Keen Kutter No. 88 to me. Here is a pic of one I recently restored. The wheat carving is a little different, but the overall shape is the same. Yours could be a little later or earlier model or perhaps a different model, or as Stef said, a hardware store saw made by Keen Kutter. If you sand the etch area lightly with a block and 400 grit paper, you may very well see a remnant of an etch.

-- Bob, Missoula, MT -- Rocky Mountain Saw Works http://www.rmsaws.com/p/about-us.html

View chrisstef's profile

chrisstef

15658 posts in 2467 days


#6 posted 09-08-2014 04:01 PM

I knew Bob would have a lead for ya. After I suggested the D23 I did a little browsing and its definitely not that lol. Hopefully you can unearth the etch from its rusty grave.

-- rock, chalk, jayhawk

View Grump2's profile

Grump2

9 posts in 818 days


#7 posted 09-08-2014 07:58 PM

Thank for your help. I will let you know what I learn. I am currently working on a Henry Dillion D8, still working on the etching.

-- Bill

View Grump2's profile

Grump2

9 posts in 818 days


#8 posted 09-11-2014 12:52 AM

I meant to say I’m working on a Henry Diisston…

Sorry I have been pretty busy and was unable to comment on my results after your advice (Smitty & Bob)...
The saw we were all trying to figure out is it a hardware store special or something else. Well I did a little more digging and I’m beginning to think that my mystery saw(s) might be Warranted Superior.

I saw one place you measure the saw from the tip of the blade to the end of the handle. Then I saw measure from tip of blade to the end of blade without the handle. If I do the first measurement the saw is 30” if I go by the second measurement then it’s a 26”. So which is the proper way to measure since I’m having a brain-fart and now doubting what I learned so long ago.

Again I really appreciate all of your assistance.

-- Bill

View summerfi's profile

summerfi

3315 posts in 1148 days


#9 posted 09-11-2014 02:34 AM

Bill, the proper way to measure saw length is along the toothline, from heel to toe. At 26”, your saw is a very common length.

-- Bob, Missoula, MT -- Rocky Mountain Saw Works http://www.rmsaws.com/p/about-us.html

View richardwootton's profile

richardwootton

1699 posts in 1416 days


#10 posted 09-11-2014 02:37 AM

Toe of the plate to the heel of the plate I believe to be the correct way to measure, and 26” is much more common for a big hand saw. Regardless of maker, I’m sure you can restore this big ol’ boy and even make it a great user if you feel so inclined.

-- Richard, Hot Springs, Ar -- Galoot In Training

View richardwootton's profile

richardwootton

1699 posts in 1416 days


#11 posted 09-11-2014 02:39 AM

Ah, good ol’ Bob beat me to the punch! He also happens to be SUPER knowledgable about old saws.

-- Richard, Hot Springs, Ar -- Galoot In Training

View Grump2's profile

Grump2

9 posts in 818 days


#12 posted 09-11-2014 02:50 AM

Thank you Bob and Richard

I am restoring some or all of them for use, and teach my son how to properly use them. Either way my son will inherit some history too.

-- Bill

View chrisstef's profile

chrisstef

15658 posts in 2467 days


#13 posted 09-11-2014 06:07 PM

When it comes down to making them sharp again I cant recommend the video LJ Brit put together on the subject. Its worth an evening in the lazy boy with a pad and pencil.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-_MF2Mnxwc

-- rock, chalk, jayhawk

View Grump2's profile

Grump2

9 posts in 818 days


#14 posted 09-14-2014 03:10 PM

Smitty

Thank you for the link it was very informative. I have also been following Paul Sellers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA5DixEaaUo&list=UUc3EpWncNq5QL0QhwUNQb7w

Do you know of any good reference books on older wood working tools?

-- Bill

View Grump2's profile

Grump2

9 posts in 818 days


#15 posted 09-19-2014 10:30 PM

I have gone to my local Home Depot and Lowes and I am unable to find these replacement bolts for my saw(s). Does anybody have any idea on where else I can go to find them?

Thank you and have a great day

-- Bill

showing 1 through 15 of 17 replies

Have your say...

You must be signed in to reply.

DISCLAIMER: Any posts on LJ are posted by individuals acting in their own right and do not necessarily reflect the views of LJ. LJ will not be held liable for the actions of any user.

Latest Projects | Latest Blog Entries | Latest Forum Topics

HomeRefurbers.com