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Redrich

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09-07-2014 06:58 PM

Topic tags/keywords: table saw grizzly jet powermatic general general international delta

Like so many others, I ask again, which table saw choice would be best? I have found a very good Grizzly 2002, 1023 left tilt with Shop Fox 50” rip fence, extension table, and 3hp, home made mobile base one owner for $800, 3 hours for my home. I have also located a one owner excellent 2007, Jet JTAS-10 right tilt, also with 50” rip fence extended table, 3hp, factory mobile base for $1100.00, also 3 hours away. There are two Powermatic 66 and a Delta Unisaw, all with 50/52” Biesemeyer fences, 6 hours away in three different directions for around $1500 & $1600. I live within one hour of Springfield Missouri’s Grizzly Showroom and can buy either a new grizzly G1023RLX or a GO691 saw with 3HP and extended table and rip fence, with a riving knife (used do not have), without mobile base for $1600.00. Another local tool dealer has a floor model NOS, General 350-T50m2 right tilt, 52” General rip fence for $1800 and a NOS in box General International 50-260-m1 left tilt, 50” rip fence for $1500, these saws do not have riving knifes. They also have a floor model NOS Delta X Unisaw with Biesemeyer 50” fence for $1500. I do not intend on using the saw in a production shop, I am a hobbyist who wants a very good cabinet style table saw, just sold my solid Ridgid TS 3650 contractor saw. Please give me your thoughts, am I missing something obvious and does one truly standout above the others.
Thanks for your help!!!!!!!


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Loren

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#1 posted 09-07-2014 08:00 PM

The lack of riving knives on those floor models might
offer considerable leverage to you in negotiating
with the dealer.

General was at one time a very good maker and I think
they may still make a few high quality machines in
Canada. The General international is a different
thing though allegedly the quality control is pretty
good for Taiwan imports.

If you’re willing to drive so far, keep an eye on auction
sites. I see stuff in your part of the country often
enough and going at bargain prices.

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powlusr

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#2 posted 09-07-2014 11:28 PM

I would not buy a table saw without a riving knife. It’s an important safety feature.

-- Robin - The Poconos

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#3 posted 09-07-2014 11:52 PM

I own a 1950s delta unisaw. The saw was in heavily used shape but I completely restored it. Basically delta made the exact same saw for many decades and did not change a single thing till the new unisaw came out in the past few years. I love my saw, but I really wish it had a riving knife. I bought the BORK (basically a riving knife that kinda sorta bolts on). But it is a poor substitute compared to the real thing.

In the next few years I will save up some money and buy a new saw and this time it will have a riving knife.

Bottom line, buy a saw with a riving knife.

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FancyShoes

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#4 posted 09-08-2014 12:10 AM

I am glad I read this, didnt know about the riving knife. thanks, I just watched a video on it.

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Redrich

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#5 posted 09-08-2014 01:12 AM

This has been my first post to LumberJocks and I appreciate folks caring enough to respond so quickly. I will check to make sure if or not the General has a riving knife, I have heard that General was or is the only company to produce a true retro fit riving knife, not sure if that is true or not. If General has available riving knife I’ll take your all advice and put General at top.
Thanks

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#6 posted 09-08-2014 01:30 AM


I would not buy a table saw without a riving knife. It s an important safety feature.

- powlusr

This is the reason why I personally shy away from looking in the used market.


This has been my first post to LumberJocks and I appreciate folks caring enough to respond so quickly. I will check to make sure if or not the General has a riving knife, I have heard that General was or is the only company to produce a true retro fit riving knife, not sure if that is true or not. If General has available riving knife I ll take your all advice and put General at top.
Thanks

- Redrich

That is definitely not true today. UL987 regulations/standards effectively force all NEW saws sold today to have riving knives that stay in the same plane as the saw blade, at any elevation or bevel. There are also rules about “ease” of installation and removal to encourage usage. I think these new rules took effect in 2009, and any saw that was re-designed around that point should satisfy those standards

-- paxorion

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crank49

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#7 posted 09-08-2014 02:07 AM

Of the choices you listed, I’d go for the new Grizzly GO691 at $1600 with riving knife and the 1 hr drive.
And not think about it very long either.

-- Michael: Hillary has a long list of accomplishments, though most DAs would refer to them as felonies.

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Loren

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#8 posted 09-08-2014 02:11 AM

I’ll point out that at $1500 and up you could look
at a used European machine and they have all
had riving knives for decades.

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