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Bugnurd

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09-06-2014 02:36 PM

I just picked up this plane at a flea market for $4! The only thing damaged on it is part of the casting at the rear but that shouldn’t affect it’s use. I think this is an older type. Certainly the oldest one I’ve seen so far. Maybe type 4 or 5? The lateral adjuster is throwing me off. I can’t seem to find any patent dates on it. Also, the cutter is narrower than the chip breaker. Is it possible the iron is mismatched to this plane? Any info is greatly appreciated.

-- Marc -- Worcester, MA


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#1 posted 09-06-2014 04:04 PM

That be a Stanley cutter on a Union Tool Co. No. 5 Jack plane. Might be from when Stanley bought out Union about 1920ish. Then satnley just used up Union’s supply of parts.

Union did not have Patent Dates on their planes.

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#2 posted 09-06-2014 04:16 PM

It will clean up to be a nice user. Great deal for the price. You may want to replace the cutter with one that matches the width of the lever cap. The blade width should be 2” wide.

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#3 posted 09-06-2014 07:17 PM

Ahh. That explains my trouble trying to date it. Thanks a lot for the info. I’ve never heard of Union before, so for $4, I get a plane and a history lesson. What a bargain! I also picked up a 3/4” wood handled witherby bench chisel and a pristine 1896-1917 Disston D8 panel saw (a buck each!). Are Witherby chisels decent?

-- Marc -- Worcester, MA

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#4 posted 09-07-2014 12:59 AM

Bugnurd-
“Are Witherby chisels decent?”
Some people think that Witherby is one of the half of a dozen finest edge tool makers working in the United States. All edge tool makers had a bad day every once in a while and there is no telling what abuse any tool may have had since it was purchased. But a one dollar Wtherby chisel is a note worthy find. Sharpen it up and use it.
I’ll bet it becomes a favorite.
The saw and the plane could be fine finds also.
chuck

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#5 posted 09-07-2014 01:09 AM

Union is a quality brand. :)

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#6 posted 09-07-2014 09:43 PM

I don’t think its a Union, I think its “B” plane. (Birmingham Plane )

Take a look here, https://timetestedtools.wordpress.com/2014/03/01/quickly-identify-your-hand-plane/

and

http://www.timetestedtools.com/b-planes.html

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#7 posted 09-08-2014 01:19 AM

Ditto with Don

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#8 posted 09-10-2014 03:12 PM

I agree with Don also. That lateral lever, I believe is unique to Birmingham.

FYI, Birmingham was bought by, or became a part of, the Derby manufacturing company, which was eventually acquired by Union. And, of course, Union was later acquired by Stanley.

-- Mark

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