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hahns

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09-05-2014 02:03 AM

Has anyone ever built a large entertainment center with only pocket hole joinery? what I mean by this is for the large bookshelf ends, I typically rabbit the ends of the sides of a carcass and dado the main shelf. I was thinking of building a unit where the top, bottom and shelf will be glued and pocket screwed, but not dadoed or rabbited. Will this be strong enough? The end bookshelves are thin but tall, about 70” or so.
Thanks for any advice.


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#1 posted 09-05-2014 02:22 AM

Built some honker cabinets that way. Pocket hole joinery in cabinet style furniture (what you’re describing, I would say), is very strong.

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#2 posted 09-05-2014 03:15 AM

Pocket holes with glue are more than sufficient, if not overkill. I build all of my shop cabinets with pocket screws and no glue and they will holds hundreds of pounds more on a continual basis than any household cabinet or built in will.

Paul

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#3 posted 09-05-2014 03:17 AM

I agree. I still use wood glue, as well.

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#4 posted 09-05-2014 03:29 AM

Glue and screw

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#5 posted 09-05-2014 03:36 AM

I never use glue with pocket screws in this kind of use.

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#6 posted 09-05-2014 06:59 PM

Thanks for the replies guys, that should save quite a bit of time!!!

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#7 posted 09-06-2014 04:18 PM

IMHO, pocket hole/screw loinery is great for utility type furniture, (shop, kitchen). I would prefer traditional woodworking for furniture that will be seen by others, as in a living, dining rooms or den; especially if it is fine furniture. If I spent hundreds or thousands of dollars for a piece of store furniture and it was put together with pocket screws, I would be very disappointed. I may not see the joints, but I would know it was there.

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#8 posted 09-06-2014 04:38 PM

Never used pocket holes for holding shelves in. A lot of mine are done with biscuits, glue and clamped. My face frames are always pocket screws with glue. I never use pocket holes where they will be seen by a customer. I disagree with the idea that they are sub par, they’re just not traditional.

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#9 posted 09-06-2014 05:09 PM

I have built a lot of cabinets with pocket holes and no glue….the plywood I use for the carcas has such thin veneer that I am afraid of blowing through while sanding so I want the option of replacing the piece. I do however finish everthing up to staining, then I glue the face frame on using biscuits and a biscuit slot in the carcus (all done previously) then spray on the laquer. I do not want to see the pocket holes holding the face frame on.

When I assemble I put a pocket screw about every 6 to 8 inches and let me say I think I could park my truck on it with out damaging. Glueing to me, seems to close the door to any fixes or modifications.
Mike

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#10 posted 09-06-2014 05:11 PM

Mike—same reason I don’t glue either.

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#11 posted 09-06-2014 05:33 PM

I once built a refrigerator cabinet with pocket hole screws and a bead of construction glue. We ended up not using it so I pulled the screws and expected to knock it apart—couldn’t do it. The plywood splintered before the glue gave way so I ended up cutting through the butt joints with a circular saw.

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#12 posted 09-07-2014 05:11 PM

To add a little to the pocket screw/glue question; using pocket screws implies a joint that can be disassembled if needed. Glue negates the use of mechanical fasteners. Glue and biscuit joinery is fine. glue and mechanical fasteners are incompatible. It’s like welding a part on a car that has been bolted in place.

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#13 posted 09-08-2014 01:24 AM

I used pocket screws because I didn’t have enough large clamps for a fridge cabinet.

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