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CharlesA

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09-01-2014 01:36 AM

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So . . . my shop is a one car garage with the only entrance being a roll up door. Saw on youtube this mod of such a door where the guy cuts a door size opening out of the garage door, and with a combination of garage door hinges and overlapping metal frame, makes a walk through door in the garage door while keeping the roll-up working.

Seems like a project fraught with difficulties, but with possibilities. What do you think?

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#1 posted 09-01-2014 01:43 AM

Sounds like a pain but anything is possible.

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#2 posted 09-01-2014 02:02 AM

Ok I watched the video. I guess it can be done. Now, go and make a door in the wall.

-- Bill M. I love my job as a firefighter, but nothing gives me the satisfaction of running my hand over a project that I have built and just finished sanding.

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#3 posted 09-01-2014 03:07 AM

worked at a shop in Maryland that had a walk in door in the overhead worked great

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#4 posted 09-01-2014 05:18 AM

Sounds like a screen door on a submarine.

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#5 posted 09-01-2014 05:36 AM

After seeing that great Cherry and Walnut table you did, I’d say you can handle it…...................

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#6 posted 09-01-2014 01:08 PM

At work, (firefighting), we occasionally cut doorways into roll-up doors. We do this when the building is on fire and we need access or egress. Those roll-up doors get thrown away when we’re done.

I would make a door through another wall. Much less can go wrong. You would have more options for width, windows, no step, dutch door, screen door for ventilation etc.

BJ

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#7 posted 09-01-2014 01:12 PM

Yeah, and ours are usually in the shape of a triangle.

-- Bill M. I love my job as a firefighter, but nothing gives me the satisfaction of running my hand over a project that I have built and just finished sanding.

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#8 posted 09-01-2014 01:53 PM

If you have no experience installing doors and jambs, I wouldn’t make this your first attempt. Put the door in a wall. The youtube poster probably won’t post the video of the pile of door panels laying on the floor.

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#9 posted 09-01-2014 05:54 PM

I have thought about doing that same thing but I am reluctant to start cutting on my garage door!
I looks it is possible and in my case the only alternative as there is no wall space for a regular door.
It does look like a lot of work!

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#10 posted 09-01-2014 05:57 PM

Putting in a regular door is not in the cards at the moment, although I should check to see if it would work where the side window is.

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#11 posted 09-01-2014 07:15 PM

I am going against the flow here, and think that that guy deserves an award. There possablity a patent there, if’n it could pass some local codes. A shop made up and down ramp would be easly made to get over that treshold hump. I could also see a recessed lockable handle like in RV’s. He cought some of the hold backs I had in question in viewing his video, but he also has had 4 years to see if it is still there. Post a question on this web site asking ?

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#12 posted 09-01-2014 07:37 PM

Great project. Do it!

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#13 posted 09-01-2014 10:12 PM

I see these on a regular basis around New England.

They seemed to have been popular in the 1950’s and 60’s in houses built on lots where the garage door has slopes or wall on both sides, and there was nowhere to put a human door.

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#14 posted 09-02-2014 10:58 AM

On the local examples I’m familiar with, the human door doesn’t fold.

It’s not the full height of the usually 4 panel roll-up door, maybe 5’ of the 7’ door, leaving a step at the bottom, and a section at the top. As I remember, the door jamb is attached only to the second from the bottom or top roll-up section, and the door separates from the others as the roll up transits up and down. As the roll-up flattens in the down position, the jamb is pulled tight against the face of the door and sealed by weatherstripping.

Remember, this is New England, home of simple solutions… ;^) I’m sure many of the doors I’m referring to were built in place, not purchased. They’re in inexpensive homes where the garage is also the basement. Opening the overhead to walk in and out in cold weather meant losing all the heat in the basement.

Other was to skin the cat is to simply replace the overhead door with a pair of swinging doors, or one that bi-folds outward, raised by a cable and pulley inside. On the bi-fold, you could attach the door jamb to the bottom section and let the top separate as the door folds. We have a 20’ x 40’ steel bifold on our airplane hangar. Even though the panels are high enough to fit a full-sized human door, there is still a 9-12” stepover at the bottom to accommodate the panel frame.

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#15 posted 09-02-2014 11:42 AM

I’ve seen quite a few man doors installed within a overhead door, mostly in commercial applications/businesses. These doors were designed and installed with the optional man door to be in it. To cut a hole in a residential overhead door, that wasn’t designed for this application would be asking for trouble.

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