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Forum topic by MerylL posted 08-31-2014 03:53 AM 675 views 0 times favorited 14 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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MerylL

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08-31-2014 03:53 AM

Topic tags/keywords: uni unisaw uni-saw cabinet saw used saw 1996 unisaw tablesaw

Hi – I’m looking at a January 1996 Unisaw, model 34-802. Seller says it is in excellent condition, reground table-top. Was parked in a shed and picked up some light rust from his PO, so he had it ground, used it a while, then parked it.

I’ve done a ton of research and I believe this is a good saw at < $1K, but wondered if I can get a confirmation. Model 34-802, made Jan 1996.

Thanks for any and all. I’ve read a TON on this and “the Creek” lately as I’ve searched for a saw. Seriously leaning towards a surplus PM1000 at “a screamin’ deal.” But this is a shorter drive, and quite a bit less.

I know that if everything the seller says is true, it’s a sound saw. I will know at least some things to check for thanks to this and other forums, including the UNI FAQ I found.

Thanks all, for any and all!


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Grandpa

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#1 posted 08-31-2014 04:17 AM

Would depend on what they sell for in your area. the prices change in different regions of the country.

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MrUnix

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#2 posted 08-31-2014 04:28 AM

Had the table reground because of ‘light rust’?!? That would raise a red flag for me..

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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#3 posted 08-31-2014 04:51 AM

I bought my early 90’s unisaw for $1050. It came with a excalibur 52”ish fence, a 3 hp router, and an extension table for the table saw. It was in great shape when I bought it. Used, but very well taken care of. It is 3 HP 220v. I bought it in North Texas.

Hopefully that gives you an idea. I wouldn’t say I got a great deal, but I would say I got a great saw. The deal was good and the saw was the right one.

-- The Wood Is Your Oyster

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Rick Dennington

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#4 posted 08-31-2014 05:13 AM

Some light rust would not be cause to have the table tops reground…..Depending on what he called “light rust”, some sanding, WD40, and a good polishing with some paste wax should do the trick…The ONLY reason you would have the top reground was if the table was warped, or sagging due to metal failure….Take a level with you and check longways, and across the metal tops…Make sure they are good and flat…

-- " I started with nothing, and I've still got most of it left".......

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Fred Hargis

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#5 posted 08-31-2014 11:37 AM

Concerns about the table top aside (true enough, you don’t grind one for “light rust”) mine is a 2001, 3 HP, with a 52” Unifence and several other add ons. I’m thinking it would sell for about $1000 in my area….but that’s only based on what I’ve seen others sell for. The other thing that struck me as odd about the one you are considering: I’m not sure I ever saw a 42” Bies fence. I may be wrong but I though they were maybe 30” (+/-) and 50” (+/-). I suppose it could have been a longer one cut down….but it makes me wonder about the guy. Regardless, good luck with your decision.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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Rick Dennington

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#6 posted 08-31-2014 02:26 PM

+1 for Fred Hargis….I overlooked that part about the 42” fence…..Never heard of that length either….

-- " I started with nothing, and I've still got most of it left".......

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#7 posted 08-31-2014 03:18 PM

I wouldn’t take the 42” thing as accurate.. there IS a question mark ”?” after the length in the title..

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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#8 posted 08-31-2014 04:11 PM

If the top has been ground, check and see how the mitre gauge fits. The bar might be higher than the table surface.
That would have to be ground too.
Other than that, they are great saws.
I love mine.

-- "I cut it twice and it's still too short"

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MerylL

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#9 posted 08-31-2014 04:59 PM

Oh good grief! I never EVEN thought of that… the miter gauge riding high. Well. Here’s where I am now, and MANY thanks to all of you who provided these thoughtful and thought-provoking replies (all of you!), along with my contractor friend who is 30+ years in the business: I have a line on a surplus PM1000 for about 30% off of Amazon’s best. Brand new, some paint nicks is how it is advertised. About an hour away.

I’ll probably move the cookstove’s 220 over to where I plan to park the beast. (I have gas now). There is a junction box to it so wire, conduit and a box, and I’ll have 220. It is only 1.75 hp, and probably the 30” (unless they get the 52 in!!!). But I am restoring an old house, not making stuff to sell on the open market.

So my reasoning: ALL of what was posted above, along with my contractor friend’s insights. The thought of having a ground tabletop (not even thinking about the miter gauge issue… sheesh, I so totally missed that) means it must have picked up some serious rust. So what else (that I can’t see) is rusty? I bought an old Chevy PU in Jacksonville Fla once… ran a little rough, but ok. Cheap. Pulled into the gas station 2 blocks away to fill it up to drive home, and the guy says, “Oh, you finally got it running!” The POs had been pulling it up and down the block to unfreeze a rusted engine. I had to replace that engine very soon thereafter… what a challenge! So I’m not into more.

Finally… for an additional $500 I have a riving knife, along with the stock guard and splitter, and all the other good “new saw” features. I plan to own this saw for a lot of years… let’s say it’s only 10… that’s $50 a year for the extra safety, not having to worry about someone else’s mistakes and neglect, etc., and a much higher chance of staying in the 10-digits club. (Yes… it is about more than just safety equipment, but I am a newbie, so I want to give myself the best chance possible going into this stuff. I totally admire you guys that have been doing this for a long time, and I envy you your skills and experience. But I gotta start somewhere!)

Anyway, many thanks. I knew, after reading so many posts on this and the Creek site, that I would get enough info and insights to help my decision. I’ll be back for more soon, I am sure!

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Grandpa

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#10 posted 08-31-2014 07:16 PM

I bought a Unisaw that is a 2001 model. It had some downsides. It is a 3 phase. It had no table extension on the right side. It came with a 52 inch Unifence. The motor develops 5 HP on 440V and 4 HP on 220V. It had been in an industrial setting. I only paid $180 for it at an auction. time and location….who is at the sale. They had several of them to sell that day.

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#11 posted 08-31-2014 07:46 PM

I have a line on a surplus PM1000

that’s the right saw.

-- there's a solution to every problem.......you just have to be willing to find it.

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cabmaker

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#12 posted 08-31-2014 09:20 PM

My bies is 42 and the first bies I had was 42 as well. I’m guessing you guys are talking about. Fence rail length?

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MerylL

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#13 posted 09-06-2014 06:55 PM

Well, I looked at the saw today. An hour over there. @ GENTILE: You were dead-on with the miter gauge riding proud. Nearly 1/16” proud. VERY deep grind. He had some Incra miter stuff there, and they rode proud as well. I was in and out in under 2 minutes. He suggested throwing in the Incra for extra money. Sheesh. If you gave me the saw and I bought the Incra for a fair price, I would THINK about it. I would have to get a new table—in other words, it is a new project on top of restoring my house project—but as little as this guy divulged, I am pretty suspicious…. I’ll bet dollars to donuts there are other little surprises in store.

THANKS to this and the Creek, and all you guys posting. You really have educated me. It’s funny; guys think I know what I’m talking about and have experience. I won’t even turn these saws on when I’m looking at them, that’s how “newbie” I am. I always have to ‘fess up that I am a total 100% newbie (albeit with high standards).

And thanks to somebody on one of these forums who advised putting a WANTED ad on Craig’s List, I found 5 major pieces of gear, all Jet, and 50% of 2005 prices, and only 1 piece had more than a couple hours use. They all require some 0000 + WD40 and SE Johnson’s Paste Floor wax, but at 31.23% of today’s Amazon price, I felt really good. Shaper, Jointer, 16” planer, 18” resaw bandsaw, drum sander. Wow! Now I need a good tablesaw and dust collector, and I am happy! But I really have a few months before I get to that stage in my restoration, so PATIENCE, Grass-hoppah!

Thanks again to you all.

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MrUnix

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#14 posted 09-06-2014 07:12 PM

Wow.. you put out a want ad for a Unisaw and wound up with everything but a Unisaw! Just goes to show how sometimes it’s the little things that wind up making a big, and unexpected difference :)

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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