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Joseph Jossem

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08-30-2014 04:30 PM

I have seen alot of companies here paying under the table etc..At first i didnt really care but now i see it takes sales away from real companies that pay the bills.Worst yet i see guys get hurt and they are fired.Most of these guys cant do much about it.Amazing in these times that this type of stuff is getting more common.


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ScottKaye

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#1 posted 08-30-2014 04:48 PM

Not sure what this has to do with this forum “safety in the woodworking shop” perhaps you need to post in a different forum?

-- "Nothing happens until you build it"

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#2 posted 08-30-2014 04:51 PM

workers getting fired for getting hurt for working for people that provide dangerous situations fits right in scott.Does it matter that much to you which heading it goes in?

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#3 posted 08-30-2014 05:25 PM

I’ve never seen a company here paying under the table etc…

-- I'm selfless because it feels so good!

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#4 posted 08-30-2014 05:26 PM

Common here i think because this is the worst state to do business in.

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#5 posted 08-30-2014 05:45 PM

...and what state exactly would that be considering that these forums are open to the entire globe.

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#6 posted 08-30-2014 06:01 PM

State of confusion maybe? Cuz I know I’m a card carrying resident when it comes to this thread!

-- "Nothing happens until you build it"

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#7 posted 08-30-2014 06:19 PM

Hawaii? Entire globe? confusion? card carrying resident? wow thanks the feedback…...if you dont like my thread theres no reason to read it or get stupid with me cuz….

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#8 posted 08-30-2014 07:12 PM

Joseph? Have you been hacked? Is this really you?

You haven’t made any sense, (sorry), since you posted this.

Why not start over again and explain who and what you are talking about. Who knows, it might help.

-- Improvise.... Adapt...... Overcome!

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#9 posted 08-30-2014 07:16 PM

Your first post is vague, at first I thought you were talking about LJ which didn’t make much sense but now I see you are probably talking about Hawaii. Not everyone is going to look at your profile to see where you live and they shouldn’t have to.

Back on point, when you say it is becoming more common do you mean more common in Hawaii specifically and why do you believe that? Sometimes people think something is becoming more common when really they are just becoming aware of how common it is. Paying under the table is pretty common in every state where I’ve lived and has been for decades, at least. A related issue that was more common until the IRS cracked down was paying employees and listing them as contractors. This happened to my friend, he wasn’t real savvy about looking over his pay stubs and a few years later the IRS came after him for not paying his taxes.

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#10 posted 08-30-2014 07:17 PM

Dallas and Rick thanks for responding.Yes i see i did run a in complete thread.I cannot name names or company names as it will open me to law suits.Ill let this thread die as i dont have time right now to go into detail.Thanks for responding politely and not just picking a fight for no reason like others here.Mahalo

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#11 posted 08-30-2014 08:05 PM

Trying my best not to pick fights anymore.

-- Improvise.... Adapt...... Overcome!

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#12 posted 08-30-2014 10:58 PM

Hey dude.. You need a chill pill big time. No one knew what the hell you were trying to say. I politely pointed out that what ever it was, it probably wasn’t meant for this forum. I take great offense to you calling me “CUZ” I am not your cousin and I would appreciate if you wouldn’t refer to me in that manner. I think most people, except you my friend, recognized the way I was using the word “CUZ”. AS IN BECAUSE.

-- "Nothing happens until you build it"

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Dallas

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#13 posted 08-30-2014 11:13 PM

ScottKaye, In defense of Joseph, I think you have either misread or misunderstood the usage of “cuz.”

“if you dont like my thread theres no reason to read it or get stupid with me cuz….”

The usage in the phrase, in my opinion refers more to the word ‘because’ that to the word, ‘cousin.’

Don’t try to start a fight by manufacturing a reason.

-- Improvise.... Adapt...... Overcome!

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#14 posted 08-30-2014 11:34 PM

Joseph, did you get hurt and then fired? Did you get paid under the table? Let’s hear the whole story. I’m on your side…life can be tough.

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Joseph Jossem

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#15 posted 08-30-2014 11:42 PM

Threads over Scott chill out…If you want to take it further give me a call we can talk my phone numbers on my website.Mahalo

Dkv I fire my self daily hurt or not hahahaaa ill answer your question.A few of the wood shops here in Hawaii hire chronics or the less off.when things go wrong they are fired gone.No insurance for injuries nothing.No legal paper trail on labor etc.Mean while the owners bring in big profits.It takes business away from the ones running legally and in the end hurts the profession as a whole.Nothing new really but as a business owner with kids i dont like losing sales to this type of business.

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