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Forum topic by Tom posted 08-27-2014 08:34 PM 1171 views 0 times favorited 26 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Tom

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08-27-2014 08:34 PM

Hi all,

Pretty sure I know what I am going to do but always nice to get a little input from others.

I currently have a Shopfox W1706 (mfg 2011). It has been a good bandsaw but the resaw capacity has bitten me several times. I looked into getting the extension but from what I have read it seems like this can be hit or miss with this style of bandsaw, some suggestions that with the extension they really should not run 3/4” blades.

Right now I have an offer to sell my Shopfox for $580 (it has the Kreg fence on it) and I have been looking at the Rikon 10-325 at my local wood craft (currently $799+ tax), also looked at the Grizzly G0513ANV which would come in at $825 to my door.

Since I would have to pop around $100 for the extension kit and then have to buy new blades anyways I am thinking why not pop an extra hundred or so and get a new saw that has the extra re-saw built right in? About $165 diff to get the Rikon or $145 diff to get the Grizzly.

From what I have read the lower bearing guides on the 10-325 may or not be an issue (the only issue I could find on that saw) and I have not read anything much yet about the Grizzly. I know the Rikon has cast iron wheels and the Grizzly has cast aluminum wheels and from what I have read the cast iron is the way to go if possible.

As far as I know only the Grizzly and Rikon have the extra re-saw capacity in a smaller saw that can run 110.

Any input on the issue will be greatly appreciated.

-- --Tom - Saint Francis, WI


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Wildwood

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#1 posted 08-27-2014 09:17 PM

I would go with the Grizzly G051ANV over the Rikon if have 220V’s available. You can change to 110V but not sure would want too. Manual has procedures & diagram for changing voltage. Looks like roller bearings blade guides easy to adjust.

-- Bill

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Tom

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#2 posted 08-27-2014 09:23 PM

Thanks wildwood, I currently do not have 220, I may or may not have 220 in an about a month so I have to base this decision on 110. I do wonder if the cast iron wheels are really a big deal – from what I read it’s a pretty big deal but no one really explained why – I have to assume more stable, smoother operation due to the added weight?

-- --Tom - Saint Francis, WI

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Ron Ford

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#3 posted 08-27-2014 09:31 PM

I own several Grizzly tools (3 hp G0690 table saw and G0725 jointer) and am a big fan of their gear. I also own a Rikon 10-325 and am more than happy with it and it’s performance. I am primarily a woodturner and use it to cut green wood bowl blanks up to a foot thick, and also use it to re-saw planks for segmented and other pieces. I did refit it with Carter guides and use their blades, and could not be happier with it.

No knock on the Grizzly saw, but I wouldn’t trade my Rikon for any other model in the same class.

Hope this helps – it’s just my opinion. I’m sure you will be happy with either one.

Ron

-- Once in awhile I make something really great. Most days I just make sawdust.

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Tom

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#4 posted 08-27-2014 09:41 PM

Thanks Ron,

To be honest I am leaning toward the Rikon, It’s about the same size as the Shopfox and only a 1/2 horse less power than the Grizzly. I am leery however of having to potentially put another $200 or $300 into it for the carter guides which seems everyone who purchased the Rikon winds up having to do, are the stock ones really that bad? I mainly want to re-saw boards – usually take a 4/4 and plan on getting 3 – 1/4” planks out of it by the time the curf and planning is done. I have an interest in cutting some veneers but at this point that is more a curiosity than a must have, mainly the re-sawing I am looking at.

-- --Tom - Saint Francis, WI

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Ron Ford

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#5 posted 08-27-2014 10:02 PM

I understand your reluctance to invest in the Carter guides, but I did it and have been 100% delighted with the overall performance of the Rikon with them. I have used them for resawing (using the blades from Highland Woodworking) with excellent results, even cutting super thin pieces even thinner than the 1/4” you are planning.

It all comes down to dollars and cents, but I am a big fan of the Rikon/Carter setup I use.

Hope this helps.

Ron

-- Once in awhile I make something really great. Most days I just make sawdust.

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Mark Shymanski

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#6 posted 08-28-2014 04:16 AM

Another very satisfied Rikon owner here. The cast iron wheel is one of the big selling features for me. I tried a 14” Delta with a riser block setup…that experience was enough to sell me on the Rikon. It is a solid machine versus the ‘flimsiness’’ of the aluminium Delta wheels. The boards I had tried to resaw on (and gave up on) on the Delta cut smoothly on the Rikon even with it’s stock blade. I’d go with the Rikon.

-- "Checking for square? What madness is this! The cabinet is square because I will it to be so!" Jeremy Greiner LJ Topic#20953 2011 Feb 2

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#7 posted 08-28-2014 09:37 AM

Take a look at Rockler I saw the other day they had the Laguna 14/12 on sale for nine something I know it’s a bit more to spend that what you have said but all I know is I really like my 14/12 bought it in March has plenty of resaw capacity the cast iron wheels plus ceramic guides and it’s 110 volts. take a look on Laguna’s web site and look at the video section they have a real good one covering all you would want to know from un boxing it to start up worth looking at good luck on your saw hunt.

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Sandra

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#8 posted 08-28-2014 10:35 AM

Happy Rikon owner here as well, and I have not changed the guides as yet.

I can’t comment on Grizzly but I can give you some heads up on the Rikon.

- I had a difficult time with the belt jumping off the pulley in the lower housing. It was a huge PIA, but once I got it sorted out and replaced the belt (free from Rikon) I’m very happy with it. Turns out that the belt pulley was just slightly too close to the frame of the bottom housing. The set screw had to be loosened and the pulley ‘nudged’ slightly away from the frame. If you have any problems with the belt jumping, you may want to check it out.

I change from a resaw blade to a thinner blade regularly and while setting up the guides was new to me, now that I’m used to the machine it’s done quite quickly. I use a shop-made jig for pattern cutting with a thin blade, and it works like a charm. My resaw blade is from Highland woodworking, which I highly recommend.

The Rikon is my first bandsaw, so I can’t make comparisons. Despite some initial hiccups, it’s done everything I need it to do and I would get one again if this one disappeared.

I put it together myself despite good advice to the contrary. It can be done, but I wouldn’t recommend it.

Happy shopping.

-- No, I don't want to buy the pink hammer.

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Wildwood

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#9 posted 08-28-2014 11:42 AM

I see Rikon has updated their web site and color scheme on bandsaws. Once was big fan of 14” deluxe BS until seen one up close. Could tell by looking blade guide adjustments could be real P.I.T.A. and would not want to spend another $179 – $200 for Carter upgrade.

Have an acquaintance with that saw and rather cuss when making those adjustments than buy the Carter upgrade kit. When not needing parts he loves it, hard to tell what parts went south with all the cussing about Rikon CS & cost. Other than potty mouth he has fixed all minor problems. He does use his saw everyday cutting domestic and exotic wood veneers.

If asked same question over at wood net.com would get probably get more Grizzly 513 fans, you can read reviews here on both saw. Have you had a look at this BS, also some reviews here.

http://www.lagunatools.com/bandsaws/1412-Bandsaw

Good luck with whatever you buy.

-- Bill

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Tom

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#10 posted 08-28-2014 12:40 PM

Thanks guys, Wildwood – I really like that Laguna 14/12 but that gets more than what I want to spend – a couple hundred over the sale price of my Shopfox I am willing to do, but I don’t want to spend another $400 to $500, the Shopfox itself is a great bandsaw – very heavy, cast iron everything – I just don’t like those extensions.

Right now it looks like it’s the Rikon from what I am reading.

-- --Tom - Saint Francis, WI

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Tom

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#11 posted 08-29-2014 03:17 PM

I do wonder if I would be better off getting the extension for the Shopfox and sticking the money into a better re-saw blade? The only reason I did not consider this was that many posts I have read the people were not happy with the extensions.

-- --Tom - Saint Francis, WI

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Wildwood

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#12 posted 08-29-2014 06:19 PM

Extension/riser block kit definitely another way to go. With right blade and feed rate do not think will have any problems.

-- Bill

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knotheadswoodshed

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#13 posted 08-29-2014 06:56 PM

I have the Rikon 10-325. I use it mainly for re-sawing boards, making shop-sawn veneer and making inlay banding. Overall, I am pretty happy with it (have used it for 1 year now).

I have resawed up to 10” with no issues at 110V

I think the stock roller bearings could be a little less fussy.
My one complaint would be the light fixture, not sure what they were thinking, but it is pretty useless the way they located it.

-- Randy - "I dont make mistakes, I make design change opportunities" www.knotheadswoodshed.com

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Woodmaster1

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#14 posted 08-29-2014 07:57 PM

I have the rikon and guide adjustment is not pita everybody makes it out to be.

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#15 posted 08-29-2014 07:59 PM

If you decide on the Grizzly I have a 10% off coupon you are welcome to, if you don’t already have one.

-- Earl

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