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Forum topic by CharlesA posted 08-26-2014 08:03 PM 564 views 0 times favorited 16 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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CharlesA

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08-26-2014 08:03 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question finishing

I’m putting the final coats of Arm-R-Seal poly on my project, and noticed some gnats flying around as a was applying it (no air-conditioning). Went in this morning and there were 15-20 gnats embedded in the top! Fortunately, they were relatively easy to get rid of, but it was a pain since they disturbed the poly surface as they dried to their deaths.

Anybody else have this happen?

-- "Man is the only animal which devours his own, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor." ~Thomas Jefferson


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Earlextech

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#1 posted 08-26-2014 08:27 PM

The majority of my cabinet career was in Florida!

Problems in order of PIA – #1 bugs #2 blushing #3 different bugs.

-- Sam Hamory - The project is never finished until its "finished"!

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pintodeluxe

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#2 posted 08-26-2014 08:38 PM

The only thing I can suggest is to try quicker drying finishes, like lacquer. However if the bugs find it when it’s wet, they will still stick to it.
I had some bugs attracted to shellac once, but luckily that dries quickly so it wasn’t an issue.

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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HorizontalMike

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#3 posted 08-26-2014 08:52 PM

Don’t store your bananas near your finishing station!

;-)

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#4 posted 08-26-2014 08:55 PM

Yes, bugs like paint. Especially if your working in the evening outside.

-- Nicholas

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#5 posted 08-26-2014 09:33 PM

I think everybody has had this problem at one time or another. Only solution I’ve come up with is a positive pressure paint booth. Sadly, though I’ve come up with the solution, I haven’t implemented it.

-- Visualize whirled peas

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Greg..the Cajun Box Sculptor

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#6 posted 08-26-2014 09:39 PM

Mix a little insect repellent in with your finish before applying..!~~

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oldnovice

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#7 posted 08-27-2014 04:21 AM

I hate to say this gnaturaly I have had this and worse.

I had one of those very large moths, that seem to have powder on their wings, which when you touch them gets all over the place. Luckily it was a small project, a plate shelf, which I had to sand down and refinish, this time in my basement.

-- "I never met a board I didn't like!"

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Billy E

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#8 posted 08-27-2014 11:52 AM

I’ve had that problem. Only thing I’ve found that helps is to sand each layer if you’re trying to build, and sand the the last heavy coat with really fine paper (like 800) and then wipe on very thinned, >50% thinner, varnish and buff off. This might take a couple of coats and all you’re trying to do is fill those 800 grit scratches. Of course you can just get heavy coats on there and try to polish it all out but I’ve had mixed results doing that myself. I think it depends on how hard the poly is that you’re using.

I’ve had the powdery moth wing problem on a set of wheels that I let someone else try to refinish. It was that experience that helped me realize I have to do EVERYTHING myself if I want it done to my satisfaction.

-- Billy, Florence SC

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mrjinx007

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#9 posted 08-27-2014 11:54 AM

They are attracted to shiny things, that’s why they dive into your eyes as well. You can use “Bugs be gone” on your lawn a week before finish work.

-- earthartandfoods.com

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#10 posted 08-27-2014 02:10 PM

(Crazy) unproven idea – Setup a “honeypot” to draw the bugs to a nearby temptation. Sugar water, bright lights, whatever you want.

PS: I will deny I suggested this ;-)

-- paxorion

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Billy E

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#11 posted 08-27-2014 02:24 PM

I wonder if running one of the air filters mentioned in a recent project would help?

-- Billy, Florence SC

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oldnovice

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#12 posted 08-27-2014 04:37 PM

Billy E, perhaps Gefilte fish would attract them and filter them! humor intended for a buggy problem

-- "I never met a board I didn't like!"

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joeyinsouthaustin

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#13 posted 08-29-2014 09:51 PM

What about a version of those ‘tent’ looking things that get put over pies at potluck partys??

-- Who is John Galt?

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Bill White

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#14 posted 08-29-2014 11:58 PM

Shotguns! :)
I guess that the bugs are just a hazard unless you have a dedicated environment for finishing.
Bill

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JAAune

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#15 posted 08-30-2014 03:27 AM

Give them something more attractive and most will leave the finish alone. We set out jars with apple cider vinegar covered in plastic wrap with pinholes poked in the plastic. The gnats flock to them, crawl inside and can’t get out.

A drop of soap in the vinegar removes surface tension so they are more likely to sink and drown.

The question is though, are they gnats or fruit flies?

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