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Forum topic by bobasaurus posted 08-19-2014 04:49 PM 704 views 0 times favorited 21 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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bobasaurus

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08-19-2014 04:49 PM

I have a chance to buy a new Lie-Nielsen No. 4 1/2 smoothing plane (45 deg bed, I believe) for $50 off retail. It’s tempting, but I already have a LN No. 4 bronze 50 degree smoother that meets most of my smoothing needs perfectly. Would a lower-angle, slightly heavier/larger plane be worth having? I’m trying to resist the blind urge to buy new tools just to have them, but this is sorely tempting.

-- Allen, Colorado


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Mark Shymanski

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#1 posted 08-19-2014 04:54 PM

It doesn’t seem you have a burning need and 50 off retail is no ‘once in a lifetime deal’ so I don’t know if I’d rush out to get it.

-- "Checking for square? What madness is this! The cabinet is square because I will it to be so!" Jeremy Greiner LJ Topic#20953 2011 Feb 2

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#2 posted 08-19-2014 04:55 PM

Probably good advise. I have a weakness for hand planes that I have to keep in check.

-- Allen, Colorado

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#3 posted 08-19-2014 04:58 PM

Okay now that I know you are not getting it :-) what is the contact info for the seller LOL!?

I’m just kidding I have neither the need or the scratch right now:-)

-- "Checking for square? What madness is this! The cabinet is square because I will it to be so!" Jeremy Greiner LJ Topic#20953 2011 Feb 2

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bobasaurus

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#4 posted 08-19-2014 05:00 PM

Hah, if anyone near Boulder CO is interested here is the listing:

http://boulder.craigslist.org/tls/4593799482.html

Still might bite the bullet, damn you tool lust.

-- Allen, Colorado

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#5 posted 08-19-2014 05:07 PM

I have both, each has its use. I fact I have several of each, some Stanley’s, some LN, and even a LV for good measure. They all get used some more than others. If money isn’t a problem I’d go for it…..as Fabulous Frank used to say “planes will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no planes”. Or something like that, I may have mixed up the subject :-).

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#6 posted 08-19-2014 05:39 PM

One thing I really like about my 4 1/2 is I can plane the edges of two boards simultaneously. Other than that….might save you some time smoothing panels.

-- -Dan

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simmo

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#7 posted 08-19-2014 05:56 PM

Dont`bother, why duplicate, spend the money on some nice timber, I got caught up with the “you need this tool” found myself spending more on tools than timber, the best tools are the ones you use the most, you have a good plane just use that one, I have lots,I use the jointer on almost every thing regardless of size and a small block plane for tweaking and trimming, the rest are just gathering dust.
HTH Chris

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#8 posted 08-19-2014 06:18 PM

I love my 4 1/2! Much more than I do my #4. the extra heft and width is really nice.

-- Richard, Hot Springs, Ar -- Galoot In Training

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#9 posted 08-20-2014 03:14 AM

I have them both. Love them both. But don’t ask me, my answer is always going to be “Buy the Lie Nielsen!”

-- Red-- "I'm a lumber hoardin', finger nickin', sliver cursin', breaker trippin', summbuckin woodworker ya'll"

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JohnChung

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#10 posted 08-20-2014 06:02 AM

Welcome to P.A.S.G Plane Addiction Support Group

If you can do all that you need with #4 for smoothing then 4 1/2 is excessive.

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#11 posted 08-20-2014 06:51 AM

well, I’d be tempted because I have a bronze #4
and keeping it waxed annoys me, though I
appreciate the mass.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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#12 posted 08-20-2014 12:20 PM

Go for it.

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#13 posted 08-20-2014 01:42 PM

I depends if you have more urgent needs else where in your shop that that money could be spent on.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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bobasaurus

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#14 posted 08-20-2014 04:08 PM

I really have no need for it aside from tool buying withdrawal. I think I’ve managed to resist the buying urge somehow… I’m pretty well covered on bench planes, though I do need some combination/joinery planes.

-- Allen, Colorado

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#15 posted 08-20-2014 04:41 PM

If you don’t have a shoulder plane and some nice crank
neck chisels you don’t know what you’re missing.
Iwasaki files too.

My crank necks are vintage Buck bros. Rather good
looking chisels I think.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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