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Forum topic by Loren posted 08-18-2014 01:51 AM 884 views 2 times favorited 30 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Loren

7567 posts in 2305 days


08-18-2014 01:51 AM

Ok. I know a lot about woodworking and I know a fair
bit about how the internet works, SEO and all that.

After a recent spat with admins on another woodworking
forum I’ve done some thinking about what makes
Lumberjocks a progressive model for a woodworking
forum that others might do well to emulate.

What I like:

1. a robust and accessible graphic interface that allows
people to post pictures easily in forums, blogs and
in “projects”. The classifications seem redundant at
times and the competition for “Top 3” seems rather
silly to me, but I recognize that some people enjoy
that part of it so it’s ok.

2. subforums. Though the activity level at present
is not so intense subforums are strictly needed,
subforums are a good organizational thing for
compartmentalizing specific topics. Considering the
technical weaknesses of most other woodworking
forums I have looked at I see potential for LJ to
grow among professional woodworkers and people
doing hobby work at an advanced level and that
sort of input will help us all learn.

3. open linking policy. Yes, you can put a link in
your posts and in your signature and people can
click on it. I’ll explain that there was this old
search engine optimization belief that if you let
people post “do-follow” links on a forum, or
even “no-follow” links then the forum would
lose credibility in the search engines. I no longer
believe that to be true as Google and other
search engines are using much more advanced
algorythms these days which essentially read and
rate content for quality… which means a site
that has quality content will get “love” from
search engines and redundant sites with regressive
policies will not. Furthermore, allowing users to
link to relevant content and promote their own
websites is a form of give-and-take which cultivates
goodwill from users. The forum I recently stopped
participating in has draconian policies and basically
sucks up free content created by well-meaning
contributors while giving little back to them. While
LJ also benefits from the enormous “crowd-sourced”
content engine its user-base drives, it rewards users
for their contributions in a number of reasonable
ways, including things like “Top 3” recognition and
live link permissions as a default. Most other woodworking
forums are dinosaurs in comparison.

What I don’t like:

1. Lack of “stickies” for redundant topics like “how to choose
a table saw”.

-- http://lawoodworking.com


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Rick Dennington

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#1 posted 08-18-2014 02:02 AM

And “smilies”...........and other stuff….........

-- " I started with nothing, and I've still got most of it left".......

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Loren

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#2 posted 08-18-2014 02:11 AM

“likes” might be cool. That way when people
agree with a well-reasoned comment other
people could see that easily. As it is users
have to do this ”+1” thing… which certainly
pumps up the content quantity but gets
verbose when scanning threads as a reader.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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paxorion

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#3 posted 08-18-2014 02:28 AM


What I don t like:

1. Lack of “stickies” for redundant topics like “how to choose
a table saw”.

- Loren

Yes…yes please. I think it’s compounded by the fact that search is not user friendly.

-- paxorion

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BJODay

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#4 posted 08-18-2014 02:35 AM

I think the search capabilities on LJ could be greatly improved. That and Stickies could clear out a lot of the redundant requests from new users who don’t realize, or can’t locate old topics.

BJ

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Yonak

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#5 posted 08-18-2014 02:52 AM

Removing Off-Topic posts from the consolidated board would help to unclutter it. Those who follow those posts will go the the Off-Topic Forum. The subject of such posts isn’t identified on the consolidated board anyway.

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TopamaxSurvivor

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#6 posted 08-18-2014 02:53 AM

+ 1 Loren ;-)) I like it all, but the search feature doesn’t do much.

EDit: BTW, I rarely bother with any other WW forums.

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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DW833

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#7 posted 08-18-2014 03:02 AM

I don’t like how favorites are done. Would like to organize them and search my favorites.

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TravisH

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#8 posted 08-18-2014 03:14 AM

Most search functions are poor on websites in my opinion always easier to just use google and type in what I am looking for and lumberjocks to get it.

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Loren

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#9 posted 08-18-2014 04:04 AM

Regarding the internal search function. Here’s a way
to use Google specifically to search LJ or any other
site:

“site:lumberjocks.com backgammon”

Just type that in and hit “search”, not “go”.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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TopamaxSurvivor

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#10 posted 08-18-2014 04:06 AM



Regarding the internal search function. Here s a way
to use Google specifically to search LJ or any other
site:

“site:lumberjocks.com backgammon”

Just type that in and hit “search”, not “go”.

I knew that, but I keep forgetting to do it ;-))

- Loren


-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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Loren

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#11 posted 08-18-2014 04:08 AM

I use it for Craigslist a lot. That’s how I find crazy
European machines. Once in awhile they are
within driving distance.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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TopamaxSurvivor

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#12 posted 08-18-2014 04:10 AM

Loren, It doesn’t work. I just typed in “site:lumberjocks.com which table saw should I buy”. I am still confused ;-))

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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Loren

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#13 posted 08-18-2014 04:28 AM

Nix the quotes. Go to Google.com. I have it set as a default search
bar but going to the austere Google page is a way to
get to zero-point with Search-Fu. Google has an advanced
search tool and the phrasing above ^^^ is one way to
access its features without playing 20 questions with it.

http://www.google.com/advanced_search

example: I highlighted your query, omitting the quotes
and right-click (phmeh, Mac people) which opens a new
tab in my browser searching for that term, eg.
https://www.google.com/search?q=site:lumberjocks.com+which+table+saw+should+I+buy&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&client=seamonkey-a

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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Billy E

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#14 posted 08-18-2014 12:32 PM

I think the format is good, but what really makes LJ special for me is the members. I’m new to the craft and only once have I gotten a response that I thought was meant to be sarcastic or ugly. Try other forums, of any topic, and the new guys get blasted for asking the same questions everyone asks when they’re just starting. Then they leave and it’s a forum dominated by a dozen or so “experts” that nobody else wants to deal with. I’ve seen some pretty elementary projects posted, and no teasing or bashing ensues. I like that there are people on this board that are long-time professionals, along with inexperienced hobbyists (I’m in that category) and everyone gets along fairly well.

-- Billy, Florence SC

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Don W

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#15 posted 08-18-2014 12:35 PM

I agree Loren, and I REALLY wish it was easier to post pictures.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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