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Cliff

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08-16-2014 10:29 PM

G’day,

Imagine a piece of wood 6 inches wide and any thickness from 1/4 inch to 3 inches and about 6 inches long. Glue them all on top of each other to create a block of wood 6 inches x 6 inches and up to perhaps 12 inches in length.

In theory this would give me a nice sized piece of stock for Bowl Turning. My reasoning is, I have a supply of ” Bits and Pieces” of wood in different sizes and colours and grains. I never want to waste even a scrap of wood and this seemed a good creative way to combine the woods in such a way that it is able to be Turned and is Pretty and Pleasing to the eye.

Am I on the right track? I am sure that my fellow Lumber Jocks will have some very sound advice for me.

Thank you very much. Kind Regards,

Cliff.

-- Cliff Australia : Snoring is good. It blows away all the Sawdust.


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Wildwood

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#1 posted 08-16-2014 10:45 PM

I do not do much segment turning because mating surface must perfect. For segment bowls not sure want six x six square block although can certainly do that.

If want to turn lamps or other spindle projects gluing up a bunch of scrap wood makes more sense to me.

Only thing to remember is allow the glue to fully dry before turning.

http://jlrodgers.com/pdf/part-1-cut-accurate-segments.pdf

Give it a go and show us some pictures!

-- Bill

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Jim Jakosh

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#2 posted 08-16-2014 10:47 PM

Hi Cliff. That will work to use up scraps. A couple thing- try to arrange them in some kind of a pattern and make sure each piece is dead flat to avoid gaps in the turned piece…..........Jim

-- Jim Jakosh.....Practical Wood Products...........Learn something new every day!! Variety is the Spice of Life!!

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Cliff

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#3 posted 08-16-2014 11:06 PM

Hi Bill,
Thanks for your advice. Yes I can see the importance of making sure glue is fully set/dry. It could be a disaster if the piece came apart. PERHAPS TITE BOND 3 would be good?

Regards,

Cliff.

Hi Jim,
Yes the pattern Idea sounds good and dead flat surface for sure. How about if I set the table saw blade at 45.D and cut the corners off to make it a bit easier to round off with the roughing gouge?
Also it would seem that if I used a Bowl Gouge to hollow out the bowl I would be cutting across grain. Would that be ok?

Thanks Jim,

Cliff.

-- Cliff Australia : Snoring is good. It blows away all the Sawdust.

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TheDane

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#4 posted 08-16-2014 11:28 PM

Cliff—Yes … knock the corners off whenever you can. And using a bowl gouge would be my choice regardless of the grain.

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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Cliff

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#5 posted 08-16-2014 11:44 PM

Gerry. Thank you! I am starting to feel more confident about the grain already. Much appreciated!!!

Regards,

Cliff.

-- Cliff Australia : Snoring is good. It blows away all the Sawdust.

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hairy

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#6 posted 08-17-2014 01:59 PM

http://www.pennstateind.com/store/WXLA6W.html?prodpage=1WX

http://www.huntcountywoodturners.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=HBSb8HfQJx4%3D&tabid=322

Maybe you can get some ideas from them. That is something I’ve been wanting to do.

-- in the confusion, I mighta grabbed the gold ...

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Wildwood

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#7 posted 08-17-2014 06:44 PM

Any carpenter’s PVA glue works turners here including myself like Titebond II. Other than clamps, do not have the right tools to do much segment turning myself.

This Mulberry box & lid with Cherry finial glued up with polyurethane glue several years ago. Besides wanting better cap filling and did not want that polyurethane glue to harden in the bottle. Now know poly was not the best choice for segmented turnings.

Only secret to gluing up several species of wood at one time is color bleeding from darker woods into lighter color wood. A light coat of shellac prevents that.

-- Bill

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Rick M.

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#8 posted 08-17-2014 07:10 PM

I’ve read complaints about TB3 among segment turners of the glue turning dark and shrinkage. I’ve encountered that problem myself although I didn’t know the cause until reading the complaints. TB2 is recommended instead.

-- http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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TheDane

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#9 posted 08-17-2014 08:32 PM


I ve read complaints about TB3 among segment turners of the glue turning dark and shrinkage.

Right you are. I actually prefer the original TiteBond (red label), but if I need additional open time I will go to TBII (blue label).

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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Cliff

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#10 posted 08-17-2014 10:10 PM

Thank you Hairy. Those are great sites.
Regards,
Cliff.

Thanks Bill. Good tip about colour bleeding.

Regards,
Cliff.

Thanks Rick M. I will take note of the glue types.

Regards,

Cliff.

Gerry, thanks again. More good advice.

Regards,

Cliff.

-- Cliff Australia : Snoring is good. It blows away all the Sawdust.

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Ron Ford

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#11 posted 08-18-2014 12:19 AM

I’ve had very good luck with Titebond II and have not had any problems with darkening. Remember to clamp the pieces snugly, but not so tight that the glue squeezes out and weakens the bond.

Ron

-- Once in awhile I make something really great. Most days I just make sawdust.

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Bob Collins

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#12 posted 08-18-2014 02:38 AM

G’day Cliff, seems to be enough info there without me adding more. I’ll just wait and see the project you post.

-- Bob C, Australia. I love sharing as long as it is not my tools

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Cliff

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#13 posted 08-18-2014 08:36 AM

Thanks Ron.It would seem that I will use Titebond II.

Regards,

Cliff

G’day Bob,

Good to hear from you Buddy. Yes it will be interesting to see where I go with this. I haven’t had a go at Bowls yet and the thought is a bit scary letting me loose on this kind of project. I ‘ll let you know if I have a successful attempt at this project. Talk to you soon Mate.

Regards,

Cliff.

-- Cliff Australia : Snoring is good. It blows away all the Sawdust.

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Wildwood

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#14 posted 08-18-2014 09:20 PM

Why do not like segment turning part 1prep for turning. Part 2 looks better, but no part 3 yet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xdsEGxWFNQ

So much easier to throw part of a tree on a lathe and attack it!

Cliff when looked at your tool kit did not see a bowl gouge, might think about a spindle project or buy a bowl gouge.

-- Bill

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Cliff

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#15 posted 08-19-2014 02:53 AM

Hi Bill, Thank you for the YOUTUBE LINK Re, Segment construction and Turning. Very interesting and good ideas and tips. Bill,l I have a Bowl Gouge. Might be the way the Photo was taken of my chisels and the profile is not fully visible. But your suggestions are appreciated. Thank you.

Regards,

Cliff.

-- Cliff Australia : Snoring is good. It blows away all the Sawdust.

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