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Forum topic by BJODay posted 08-05-2014 04:53 AM 814 views 0 times favorited 10 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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BJODay

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08-05-2014 04:53 AM

Topic tags/keywords: tite bond iii glue epoxy

Hey all,
Earlier I posted a topic and asked advice about the waterproof claims of Tite bond III. I needed to laminate some oak to be used as “bulls” for the oars on an Irish currach. The advice leaned strongly to using epoxy instead of Tite bond III. Unfortunately I was under some time constraints and had to go with the Tite bond III.

I did email Tite bond and they replied that it would work for the application I described. The piece will get wet, but won’t be submerged. Well now that the pieces are done and gone, I took some of the scraps and did some tests.

Here are the scraps.

Here is the water.

Here are the pieces in the water.

First piece soaked for 1 hour. Notice that for this test I stopped using power tools and began using malted beverages. I could not pry the lamination apart.

Second piece soaked for 2 hours. I could not pry the lamination apart, (by hand).

The third piece soaked for 3 hours. I couldn’t pry this apart by hand either. But I took the fourth piece to the work shop and hit it with a chisel 6 or 7 times and it did split.

The last piece I’ll let soak overnight, (I’m out of beer). I feel confident that these pieces will last through this rowing season. Hopefully in the future I’ll have more time and will use a better adhesive for the job.

BJ


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Nubsnstubs

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#1 posted 08-05-2014 05:12 AM

I’m not absolutely positive, but I think the TB3 ultimate glue needs to cure for about 2 weeks to become waterproof. ....... Jerry (in Tucson)

-- Jerry (in Tucson)

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Paul

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#2 posted 08-05-2014 05:15 AM

Test 4 was obviously beer muscle that made it come apart! You didn’t sleep with it when you were done I hope?

In all seriousness, great test and photos step by step. Will you be doing the same for epoxy or resin?

Paul

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bobasaurus

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#3 posted 08-05-2014 06:40 AM

I made an end-grain cutting board glued up with titebond 3 several years ago. It’s been washed countless times, and left in standing water a few times by accident. Still holding strong, no gaps to be seen.

-- Allen, Colorado

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#4 posted 08-05-2014 07:56 AM

Always cool to do real tests. I will watch.

-- Mother Nature created it, I just assemble it.

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BJODay

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#5 posted 08-05-2014 04:15 PM

In the morning I looked the pieces over again. The piece I split with the chisel did split mostly along the glue line, but some of the wood itself failed before the joint did.

I took #3 and clamped it in a vise. I gave it a few wallops with a hammer. This deformed the wood but the joint held.

The last piece sat in water overnight, 10.5 hours. I let it dry a bit then took a chisel to it. I could not split this piece. It is larger than the other pieces so there is a greater surface area of glue.

Not very scientific but a fairly good demonstration of the glue’s strength.

BJ

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MrRon

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#6 posted 08-05-2014 04:54 PM

Thank you BJ for the test.This is very valuable information for others and certainly I will keep it in my knowledge pool.

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#7 posted 08-05-2014 10:13 PM

Question? How many beers does it take to get to the center of an oak lamination?? ;)

Now we all know the answer.

Thanks.

-- Who is John Galt?

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#8 posted 08-05-2014 11:09 PM



Question? How many beers does it take to get to the center of an oak lamination?? ;)

Now we all know the answer.

Thanks.

- joeyinsouthaustin

I think it depends on the person trying to get to the center

-- paxorion

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timbertailor

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#9 posted 08-05-2014 11:42 PM

I love modern glues. I rarely use nails or screws any more. Just glue and a clamp or two or …..

-- Brad, Texas, https://www.youtube.com/user/tonkatoytruck/feed

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Planeman40

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#10 posted 08-06-2014 05:38 PM

Thanks! I have always wondered about the ability of Titebond III to really take water. I feel a little more confident now. Even so, if I was going to build a boat or such (I did build a homebuilt airplane), I would fall back on the time tested truly waterproof Weldwood Resorcinol glue. I used it on the wings of my airplane (in accordance with FAA regulations) and like the stuff. Its only drawback is its dark reddish brown color, made, I suppose, to match the mahogany often used in boats. Leaves a dark glue line in light woods.

Planeman

-- Always remember: It is a mathematical certainty that half the people in this country are below average in intelligence!

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