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Forum topic by Don W posted 07-23-2014 06:01 PM 1054 views 0 times favorited 43 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Don W

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07-23-2014 06:01 PM

I’ve been using my restored craftsman planer since I got it back up and running, but the other day the motor decided it was tired and just didn’t want to work any more.

My motor guy is backed up and I can’t find anywhere else close to take it, and even if I did, there is no guarantee its worth fixing.

A new motor is going to run me pretty close to the price of a new Dewalt 735, which means more portability (not a big deal) and much better dust collection (somewhat of a big deal). The old craftsman rattles and bangs so the dewalt will probably be quieter.

I should add I did nothing but clean up and repaint part of the craftsman. It doesn’t own me a dime, I’ve planed a lot of wood with it. The rollers work and work decent, but they are original as far as I can tell, and I’ve thought about ordering new ones a couple of times, they show signs of wear from use.

Plus, I can part out the old girl for other who are restoring theirs.

So what would you do?

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com


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Ocelot

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#1 posted 07-23-2014 06:07 PM

I would look at CL for used motors – and at Harbor Freight for cheap new ones.

Sometimes you can find a lousy table saw cheap – which has a good motor and easy to remove.

-Paul

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shampeon

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#2 posted 07-23-2014 06:12 PM

Get thee to OWWM’s BYOD forum to find a replacement motor. You might be able to find someone to diagnose your motor, too.

-- ian | "You can't stop what's coming. It ain't all waiting on you. That's vanity."

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ToddJB

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#3 posted 07-23-2014 06:13 PM


the other day the motor decided it was tired and just didn t want to work any more.

Can you elaborate a little more as to what the specific experience was?

-- I came - I sawed - I over-built

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WhoMe

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#4 posted 07-23-2014 06:22 PM

I’m in the other boat, get the 735. 2 speeds, built in blower for better dust collection, carbide cutters and spiral heads are available for it and kits come with infeed/outfeed extensions and a set of extra cutters.plus it it’s nice to use. When my rigid lunchbox planner dies, the 735 will be it’s replacement.
Parting out the old one provides new life to someone who needs parts.

-- I'm not clumsy.. It's just the floor hates me, the tables and chairs are bullies and the wall gets in the way.. - Mike -

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Don W

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#5 posted 07-23-2014 06:23 PM


the other day the motor decided it was tired and just didn t want to work any more.

Can you elaborate a little more as to what the specific experience was?

- ToddJB

it just hums

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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shampeon

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#6 posted 07-23-2014 06:27 PM

Isn’t that usually a start capacitor problem?

Edit: Check out this thread: http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?92710-Unisaw-motor-hums-but-won-t-start

-- ian | "You can't stop what's coming. It ain't all waiting on you. That's vanity."

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Grandpa

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#7 posted 07-23-2014 06:32 PM

If this planer is like the Belsaw planers then it is worth repairing. It will outlast the Dewalt and do a good job while it is doing it. I am with shampeon. Sounds like a capacitor. Take it out and go to a place that sells those. They are relatively cheap and is the place the repairman will start too.

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GrandpaLen

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#8 posted 07-23-2014 06:38 PM

Don, it’s your planer and you know how it’s been maintained, but by your own admission it may need new feed rollers.
I would be hard pressed to invest that much in a CL planer purchase even with a new motor if it’s more than 50 – 60% of the cost of a new Dewalt 735 with built-in DC.
...just a thought.

If and when I have a need to replace mine, it will be one with a Byrd Shelix Spiral Jointer Planer Head, down the road a few miles. ;-)

Best Regards. – Len
Work Safely and have Fun.

-- Mother Nature should be proud of what you've done with her tree. - Len ...just north of a stone's throw from the oHIo, river that is, in So. Indiana.

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ToddJB

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#9 posted 07-23-2014 06:42 PM

I would guess capacitor as well

-- I came - I sawed - I over-built

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TerryDowning

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#10 posted 07-23-2014 07:49 PM


Isn t that usually a start capacitor problem?

Edit: Check out this thread: http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?92710-Unisaw-motor-hums-but-won-t-start

- shampeon


I would guess capacitor as well

- ToddJB

Provided it’s an induction motor and not a universal motor with brushes.

It could also be the centrifugal switch clogged with dirt and debris.

First thing I do on the induction motors is remove them from the machine, remove an covers and blow any dust accumulation out with compressed air.

Check the contacts on any centrifugal switches if equipped.

A lot of times is just dust fouling the contacts.

reassemble and test.

If it still just hums, then go down the capacitor road.

Do NOT let it sit and hum, you will burn the windngs, then you have junk.

-- - Terry

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Don W

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#11 posted 07-23-2014 08:01 PM

thanks ….

I’m going to pull it apart and see what I find.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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ToddJB

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#12 posted 07-23-2014 08:30 PM

Don, take a marker and make lines to indicate the alignment of where each bell meets each side of the housing. You want to put it back exactly has you took it apart.

This tutorial is amazing IMHO

-- I came - I sawed - I over-built

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SamuraiSaw

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#13 posted 07-23-2014 08:38 PM

If you decide to buy a 735, get some really good ear protection as well…..............

-- Artisan Woodworks of Texas.... www.awwtx.com

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Shawn Masterson

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#14 posted 07-24-2014 01:18 AM

If you need a replacement all you need is a 1.5 or 2 hp motor. The 5hp was meant for those that use the straight line rip and or molding features.

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oltexasboy1

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#15 posted 07-24-2014 01:28 AM

I have a 735 my wife got me for xmas in ‘97 and I’m pretty well pleased with it. The only thing that is a pain is getting infeed and outfeed tables right so as to avoid snipping. It also will blow dust from here to hell and back
again, but it planes very well with a minimum of tweaking.

-- "The pursuit of perfection often yields excellence"

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