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07-23-2014 04:30 PM

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What’s the difference? Which do you prefer?
I picked up some Titebond III my last trip to the store and other than being white and costing more, I have yet to see any real difference. The label doesn’t really give me a clue. For that matter I have also not tried the Original Titebond. What say ye about glues?

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#1 posted 07-23-2014 04:34 PM

I use TB II. I’ve looked at TBIII and the primary difference appears to be that 3 is waterproof.

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#2 posted 07-23-2014 04:38 PM

I use Titebond III for most projects.

Main differences between II and III are that III has a longer open time and higher water resistance. II is considered water resistant once dry, III is considered waterproof, so is preferable for outdoor projects. III will also cure in lower temps than the others.

Is III overkill for most of my projects? Probably, but then I only have to worry about keeping one type of wood glue around the shop and I like the longer open time.

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#3 posted 07-23-2014 04:54 PM

None of the above. I should be partial to Titebond since it’s made about twenty miles from my house, but I’m not.

I now use nothing but Gorilla Wood Glue. Not the foaming polyurethane stuff—their yellow wood glue. I also use their superglue.

Best stuff out there. Sorry, Titebond. :(

-- John - Central Ohio - "too much is never enough"

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#4 posted 07-23-2014 05:02 PM

I don’t know if I’m correct, this has always been my thought; I is formulated for indoor, II is formulated for outdoor, and III is formulated for Waterproofness.

II is cheap enough compared to I so I use it for both indoor and outdoor projects. I’ve never had a need for III so I haven’t bought it yet.

Again, just how I always looked at it, I could be wrong.

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#5 posted 07-23-2014 05:12 PM

Titebond III is meant to…
  • Have a longer open working time
  • Greater water resistance
  • Costs more

There is a video comparison on the Titebond site (http://www.titebond.com/news_article/13-10-14/Video_Spotlight_What_s_the_difference.aspx), but I find this article at the Wood Whisperer to be informative.
http://www.thewoodwhisperer.com/articles/differences-between-titebond-glues/

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#6 posted 07-23-2014 05:18 PM

I use III on cutting boards because the FDA says it is safe for food contact! I do also like the extra time it gives me! I will say though that it seems to be darker and shows more with lighter coloreds woods! I personally don’t mind that but some do I think? Modern adhesives are all quite good!

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#7 posted 07-23-2014 05:29 PM

I used both II and III in my last builtin project. I used III around the areas where muddy shoes and wet stuff will likely hit the joints. I used II when putting on the upper faceframe because it sets up much quicker. II feels a lot more tacky and sticky, so I would just hold up a stile or rail and wiggle it back and forth to get a good spread coverage and then it would basically hold itself on while I grabbed the nail gun.

III has a darker color to it when it dries. More of a brownish hue. II dries more on the yellowish side. Not a big deal, just a difference I noticed.

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#8 posted 07-23-2014 05:44 PM

Forgot to mention, that I recently switched from Titebond II to Titebond III (i.e. I finished my II and bought a gallon of III). Been happy with both, but decided to switch because I make a lot of projects for food-related applications and have some outdoor projects on the horizon.

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#9 posted 07-23-2014 05:47 PM

Titebond II has a longer open time than Titebond I. TB II gives you about 8 minutes to get things assembled.
Titebond III is water resistant, so it’s a good choice for cutting boards etc.
Titebond Extend offers a 20 minute open time, which can be helpful on detailed assemblies like chairs. The down side of TB Extend is that it is very runny.

My favorite, the one I use by the gallon, is TB II. The jointlines in furniture projects always look nice, and I have never had a glue failure. I had a bad experience with TB III once. It created a black jointline on an otherwise flawless table top, so I switched back to TB II.

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#10 posted 07-23-2014 06:07 PM

I used to use nothing but Titebond II, however I ended up with a project to build some “camping furniture” that was going to be exposed to the elements, so I ended up using Titebond III. For indoor dry apps, Titebond II, for anything exposed to moisture Titebond III.

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#11 posted 07-23-2014 06:57 PM

I’m in John’s club. The Gorilla PVA glue has a home in my shop. Quicker “grab” time, and I’ve not had a single failure regardless of the application.
When I buy it a HF, it is usually less expensive.
Now I must go shave my knuckles. Whooo whooo whooo! Beating on my chest and eating herbs….............
Bill

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#12 posted 07-23-2014 07:28 PM

I use titebond trim and molding glue, because Boxguy told me to.

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#13 posted 07-23-2014 08:05 PM

According to manufacturer both Titebond good for exterior use and water-resistant according to some testing standard. I prefer Titebond II for glue ups that I do.

http://www.titebond.com/news_article/13-10-13/Video_Spotlight_What_s_the_difference.aspx

-- Bill

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#14 posted 07-23-2014 10:24 PM

We used to use Elmer’s white glue since it was cheap and had long open time. Eventually we switched to Titebond III because it has the same open time but less water content and better early tack which makes assembly easier.

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#15 posted 07-23-2014 11:01 PM

I’ve used all three, (four if you count the Gorilla Glue), the Titebonds 2 and 3 are a pain if you use small paint brushes to spread the glue and forget to clean the brush immediately after using them.
I like the 3 for it’s longer working time…

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