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barringerwoodworks

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07-20-2014 05:27 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question plans furniture design

I’ve entertained the idea before of selling plans for items I’ve built or intend to build. Do people actually buy plans or are they available for free everywhere? I’ve never looked. As anyone can tell, my work is pretty traditional and widely available.

Would Lumberjocks be a good place to offer them for sale or would it be frowned upon?

Mine would be hand-drawn in pencil on a manual drafting setup. Was thinking they could be made into PDF’s for download on my website for a small fee.

I know some people here work from plans purchased. What is a typical price range for original woodworking plans?

Please share your opinions and ideas.

-- Scott Barringer, Sacramento, CA https://barringerwoodworks.squarespace.com


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Slemi

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#1 posted 07-20-2014 05:41 PM

I would recommend You to learn Sketchup if You plan to sell plans.

The price depends on the complexity, but don’t expect to make some serious profit from them. First because people, me included, try first to find it for free and only then buy. The second is that there is world wide web and piracy and so sooner or later plans find their way out “for free”. It’s the sad truth but that’s the way it is.

I sometimes buy plans, but only the cheap ones as I am a hobby woodworker and I don’t use them for profit.

You can let us know what plans You have. Maybe someone is looking just for that exactly right now.

Regards!
Gregor

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barringerwoodworks

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#2 posted 07-20-2014 06:08 PM

Thanks Slemi. Do you prefer Sketchup or similar format to hand-drawn plans? I know a lot of people do. I have Sketchup but just can’t get interested in it. A bit old-fashoined in that way I guess. I learned how to draft manually in high school.

When you do buy plans, how much do they cost?

I wouldn’t even think of making a lot of money on them. I do them for myself anyway. Mostly it would be for the satisfaction of knowing someone is using my plans (no concerns about “stealing” my ideas because I steal mine from everywhere else anyway) but thought I could make $10 – $20 here and there. Am I completely off base?

-- Scott Barringer, Sacramento, CA https://barringerwoodworks.squarespace.com

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waho6o9

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#3 posted 07-20-2014 06:18 PM

http://woodgears.ca/

Here’s a popular site selling plans and they’re well received from

what I can gather.

Plans are cost effective as well.

Good luck now.

http://woodgears.ca/pantorouter/plans/index.html
Plans are 18.00 for a pantorouter and from what I can tell
they’re very detailed and user friendly.

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Slemi

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#4 posted 07-20-2014 06:21 PM

I also learned by hand. And I too make my sketches first on paper, no way I can start on computer.

Last plan I bought was for this bench: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwaw3hJziTc and it cost me 5$US. But 10-20$US is acceptable price too. As I said, it depends on plan.

If You want to learn Sketchup there are a lot ov Youtube tutorials, even for woodworking: http://bit.ly/1qu8saT

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barringerwoodworks

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#5 posted 07-20-2014 06:30 PM

Thanks guys. Yeah, I’m looking around now and it seems a typical price range is more like $5 – $15. There’s a lot of free stuff out there too as mentioned.

Couldn’t hurt to try though. As I said, I do it anyway for myself. Maybe I could make a few friends and a few dollars here and there in the process.

-- Scott Barringer, Sacramento, CA https://barringerwoodworks.squarespace.com

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#6 posted 07-21-2014 03:00 AM

Put them all together along with pictures of the completed project and sell as a book.

-- |Statistics show that 100% of people bitten by a snake were close to it.|

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verdesardog

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#7 posted 07-21-2014 04:44 AM

I think you’ll make more money if you make a book of plans. I personally don’t use any plans, I make my own for everything I do. I guess I just can’t follow directions LOL

-- .. heyoka ..

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#8 posted 07-21-2014 05:45 AM

As a novice I’d say $5 is in my impulse purchase price range (especially if it’s better than what I can quickly find for free), and at $10-15 it would be nice if it included a shopping list and a rough cut list, as well as both assembled and exploded views.

Sketchup is nice because you can scale the parts of the design (or the entire design) up or down, and perhaps even add your own elements. For example, your bench might only be 4 feet wide. Maybe I love the design but want it to be 5 feet wide. You can also rotate and perform other manipulations to see what it looks like at different angles.

If it’s a piece of furniture, it’s even possible to insert the image of a room as the background and adjust the perspective appropriately. Then you can render a photorealistic image of the object as it will look in the room. I suppose most people won’t do this, but it’s kind of a cool feature.

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#9 posted 07-21-2014 06:01 AM

Use something better than Sketchup, a real CAD program like AutoCAD, Creo, or the like!
I personally do not like Sketchup even though I use it once in a while!

I learned 3D Modeling and CAD many years ago and prefer that!

-- "I never met a board I didn't like!"

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barringerwoodworks

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#10 posted 07-21-2014 06:51 PM

All great suggestions. Thanks guys.

As far as the book idea, I think that would require a bit of an investment that I’m not willing to make right now, especially since I don’t really have that substantial a portfolio at this point. Maybe in the future though, when I have a wide range of pieces to choose from.

Rob, yes the plans I draw for myself typically include a cut list, details when necessary of joinery and other things, a suggested order of milling and assembly based on experience, and other notes as well. They’re designed for me to use in the shop so that I never have to stand around thinking of anything – everything’s already been thought out.

Obviously computer drafting has many advantages. But part of the reason I’m even exploring this idea, is that I love to draw by hand. I enjoy the artistry (as dead as it may be) of hand-drawn plans whether they be for furniture, buildings or machines. I like the way they look. Using computer software would kill it for me.

-- Scott Barringer, Sacramento, CA https://barringerwoodworks.squarespace.com

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#11 posted 07-22-2014 03:56 AM

barringerwoodworks, so this precludes any solid models, renderings, and possibly isometric assembly drawing?

-- "I never met a board I didn't like!"

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#12 posted 07-22-2014 04:34 AM


Use something better than Sketchup, a real CAD program like AutoCAD, Creo, or the like!
I personally do not like Sketchup even though I use it once in a while!

I learned 3D Modeling and CAD many years ago and prefer that!

- oldnovice

You might be in the minority on your love of a paid software title. Sketchup allows me to design a clients project and bring it to them in 3d views on my ipad at their home. I agree older cad programs are more powerful, especially for rendering but I believe sketchup is the way things are going to be developed for years to come.

Scott,
I won’t buy any plan that doesn’t come with a cut list. a rough cut list is preferable as I can judge my out of wallet cost when heading to my drug dealer, oops I meant wood dealer.

I have about 2 years experience, my guess is that anyone willing to spend money on a plan is a new woodworker like myself. I will pass on every plan I see if it doesn’t include a final dimension cut or rough cut plans.

Paul

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oldnovice

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#13 posted 07-22-2014 07:13 AM

Paul, the 3D CAD software I use is FREE and has been FREE since 2002 from PTC and still available today. Is is as easy as Sketchup but has many more features. I have includd comparison chart between the free and the full version so you can see the differences.

One of best things I like about it that it can create 2D PDF prints of and part and/or assmeblies and even add the dimensions, if so desired, or you can add the ones you are interested in in decimal inches, fractional, metric and other formats.

These prints can be standard orthographic projection or 30°, 60°, true isometric or any other desired angle or section views or detail views or exploded views of parts and/or assemblies . Not only in standard line drawing but also with shaded graphics.

I can use the PDF prints as input to PartWorks (© Vectric Limited) to assign cutter and create tool paths for my CNC.

Now do you see why I use this free application Creo Elements/Direct Modeling Express 6.0?

It free, you have nothing to lose to try it for yourself!

-- "I never met a board I didn't like!"

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Phil Halliday

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#14 posted 07-22-2014 08:00 AM

I might just take a look at this as I only have about two hours into learning sketch up I have nothing to lose

Thanks for the info and links

-- Life's for living don't waste it

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barringerwoodworks

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#15 posted 07-22-2014 05:35 PM

oldnovice, I’m not sure what those terms mean.

-- Scott Barringer, Sacramento, CA https://barringerwoodworks.squarespace.com

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