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depictureboy

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304 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: glass installation glue glass stops glass installation

Ok i know this is probably a weird topic, but I was reading in an old issue of FWW and it suggested using silicone caulk to adhere glass to the wood for use in doors and such, and then to also silicone the glass stop if need be.

So it got me thinking, what do I need to do for my display case? I wasnt planning on gluing the glass down and just use stops. but now I dont know.

I am nervous about the stops anyway and wanted to know how you all attach stops for glasswork. It was recomended in the magazine to drill pilot holes using a brad and then tap in the brads. I was curious though how easy it would be to simply use a 23 guage pinner like the PC pn100…What are your alls thoughts….Im a rank amateur in installing glass so all recommendations are appreciated.

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Peter O

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304 days ago

I usually silicone in the glass and the stops. When I do faux mullions (grille, muntins, mullions and muntins), I just attach them with silicone, too. With just stops, the glass can rattle around a bit, but it is unlikely to break. You can pin your stops if … 1) you make sure the pins don’t clip the glass on the way in; 2) you make sure the gun doesn’t tap the glass when the pin is driven; and 3) if your stops don’t split when the pins are driven through.

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depictureboy

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304 days ago

in other words its safer to silicone them…do you use a particular type?

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Peter O

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304 days ago

I use GE Clear Kitchen & Bath Silicone II. There may be other products that would work as well, but this stuff is available at every hardware store in my area. Be sure you get the clear though – the packaging for the clear and white look a lot alike!

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woodyoda

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303 days ago

Kind of depends on the wood also, if the wood is unfinished, the silicone may not stick very well, because of oil in the wood. If you use an oil finish, the silicone wont stick. Silicone works great on any hard type of finish, any excess can be taken of with a single edge razor blade (laid down, straight up scraping will scratch the glass) Test it, take a piece of the type of wood you are using, squirt a little silicone on it and leave it over night, if you can peal it off with your fingers in 24 hours…..it’s not going to hold the glass well…..............................yoda

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woodyoda

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303 days ago

For a display case, just put silicone on the glass and go glass to glass or push a stop into silicone and look at it from the other side, no bubbles, your ok. otherwise, more silicone…..you can always take off excess silicone with a little glass cleaner and a razor blade. Glass cleaner lets the metal blade slide on the glass without scratching
yoda

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bentlyj

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303 days ago

My advise would be to only use a small bead around the pc. try not to let any squeeze out. The stuff is a pain to get off, even with a razor blade and cleaner it is still time consuming. You also risk cutting into your project with the blade. JMO

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woodyoda

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303 days ago

I don’t know, I’ve been working with glass and silicone for 25 years and this is the way glass is installed. of course don’t over do the silicone, but if you do, because of lack of experience, clean it with glass cleaner and a blade it only takes me seconds to do glass pieces as big as a patio door…..........................................yoda

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bentlyj

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303 days ago

Not my first rodeo either. :)
I wasn’t saying that because of your post, didn’t mean for it to sound like an attack against you if it did. I was just saying that I hate cleaning it. I’ve done a ton of glass work, nothing but store displays for at least 10 years along with bunches of UV glued glass cases, trust me I know about cleaning. All I was trying to say is if you put it on without it squeezing out you don’t need to clean it.

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depictureboy

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302 days ago

Thanks everyone for the insights and advice…I am sure Ill be doing some cleanup then cause ima n00b…heheh

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