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Forum topic by BubbaIBA posted 07-13-2014 11:57 PM 984 views 0 times favorited 7 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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BubbaIBA

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07-13-2014 11:57 PM

I finally broke down and ordered a LN smoother the other day. I was surprised when I requested it be shipped with an O1 iron instead of the normal A2. The CSR helping me said they had sold the last of the O1 irons last week and would not be carrying O1 in the future. When I asked why she said they had received too many complaints about their O1 blades. Strange, I have several LN planes all with O1 steel and no problems other than sometimes the back isn’t as flat as I like when you receive them. That’s a pretty minor problem, I wonder what caused LN to stop O1 production.

BTW, the effect is to up the price of the LN planes because I will send some love to LV and replace the A2 LN iron with a LV PM-V11 or O1 iron. Any one like to buy a new nice and thick A2 iron for a #4.


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bigblockyeti

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#1 posted 07-14-2014 12:09 AM

I have a Vertias #4 smoother with an A2 blade and a #6 fore plane with the PM-V11 iron and it seems impossible to dull the PM-V11. I swear I could plane concrete with it and not loose the edge. I suspect it will take half of forever to sharpen it too. I do find the A2 to be satisfactory for my needs.

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BubbaIBA

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#2 posted 07-14-2014 02:56 AM



I have a Vertias #4 smoother with an A2 blade and a #6 fore plane with the PM-V11 iron and it seems impossible to dull the PM-V11. I swear I could plane concrete with it and not loose the edge. I suspect it will take half of forever to sharpen it too. I do find the A2 to be satisfactory for my needs.

- bigblockyeti

I freehand on diamond stones and have several PM-V11 irons and chisels. The PM-V11 is not very different from the O1 in time to sharpen nor in the edge. The biggest difference is the PM-V11 irons and chisels will hold a working edge a little longer when working difficult wood.

Everyone works differently, I have a sharpening bench less than a meter from the working end of my main bench, I freehand, to touch up an edge it is a few strokes on the Fine Diamond a few more on the 3mu Diamond and a pull to remove the burr followed by 30 secs on the strop and I’m back to work with a very sharp edge. What is important to me is ease and speed to a working edge, both O1 and PM-V11 give that. A2 not so much, plus and this is just my personal kink, A2 feels “gummy” on the diamond stones. It doesn’t give me pleasure to sharpen. YMMV.

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JohnChung

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#3 posted 07-14-2014 03:24 AM

PM-V11 does standup longer than A2. That is for certain. But it is still subjected to wear and tear especially with
end grain and hardwood.

I was thinking of adding O1 to my collection. Looks like only LV has it.

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Loren

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#4 posted 07-14-2014 03:32 AM

Hock sells O1 irons still. http://www.hocktools.com/A2.htm

Keep your eye on ebay for O1 Lie Nielsen irons. Some tool
collectors go a little nuts and will upgrade to the latest
“technology” arbitrarily. You see this a lot with Festool
stuff when the new generation comes out.

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BubbaIBA

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#5 posted 07-14-2014 04:00 AM

Hock O1 is a good iron, most of my Stanley rescues have Hock O1 irons and chip breakers. The only ones that do not have a LV iron or they are beyond fixing and are parts planes.

While there is nothing wrong with original Stanley iron, I’m lazy and dollars are easier to come by than the time to flatten and fix an old mis-sharpened and pitted iron.

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ColonelTravis

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#6 posted 07-14-2014 04:06 AM

This is just me, but if you’re going to upgrade a blade it seems pointless to get O1 with PM-V11 now available – the cost difference is marginal while the longevity is not. Is L-N planning on replacing O1 with their own proprietary PM-V11ish steel?

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BubbaIBA

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#7 posted 07-14-2014 04:46 AM



This is just me, but if you re going to upgrade a blade it seems pointless to get O1 with PM-V11 now available – the cost difference is marginal while the longevity is not. Is L-N planning on replacing O1 with their own proprietary PM-V11ish steel?

- ColonelTravis

PM-V11 is good and seems to be everything LV claims it is but…..It is new and while I’m learning it, I know O1. In time it may replace O1 because there is little difference in cost but I’m not jumping in with both feet until I’ve spent a little more time living with and working PM-V11.

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