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Forum topic by Robert Tutsky posted 07-13-2014 02:28 AM 725 views 1 time favorited 10 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Robert Tutsky

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07-13-2014 02:28 AM

I picked up this plane today at a flea market and am wondering who the maker was and if there is any history behind a plane like this. The only writing on the base is “MADE IN USA” (it’s also stamped on the iron) and the lever cap is stamped “C115”. Iron is 1-5/8” wide, base/body is 9-1/4” long with an adjustable frog. Feels like a “mini” Stanley #3. While I picked it up more as a novelty item, I plan on cleaning it, restoring it to user status. Any input to what I have here and any history behind it would be most appreciated.


The knob and tote are in good condition. Somewhat surprising to me is the screws mounting them are brass.


I feel it can be easily rehabed to working condition.

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Loren

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#1 posted 07-13-2014 03:35 AM

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#2 posted 07-13-2014 03:51 AM

Compare the lateral lever and the frog to Sargent, Hard to see but it might be close.

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#3 posted 07-13-2014 04:25 AM

Either sargent or millers falls. If it has two “ears” on the lateral it’s a sargent, one folded over its millers falls.

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Robert Tutsky

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#4 posted 07-13-2014 06:43 AM

Alright then… l am assuming it’s a Sargent, judging from the lateral adjuster with two “ears” showing in this shot.

Thank you all for your input. I will post my rehab efforts with this plane if anyone is interested.

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#5 posted 07-13-2014 05:26 PM

It’s surprising that an obviously well made plane wouldn’t have a brand name on it. It looks like other planes from Stanley. Could possibly be one that was sold by Montgomery Ward or Sears. The cap iron could have come from another plane.

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#6 posted 07-14-2014 10:16 AM

I just wrote an article on Victor planes but haven’t posted it yet, but if you look at this https://timetestedtools.wordpress.com/2014/03/01/quickly-identify-your-hand-plane/ you’ll see it looks like the later Stanleys.

Its possible you have a Victor made in 1952. They were a line made to be a little better then the Defiance but not as good as the Bailey. In 1952 they were painted black, then in 1953 they went grey and red.

Its believed the lever cap didn’t have the name on it because it wouldn’t fit with the current tooling.

Also if its a Victor #3 the lever cap will not have a spring.

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Don W

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#7 posted 07-14-2014 11:45 AM

That second photo certainly looks like a Defiance lateral. The first photo didn’t.

http://www.timetestedtools.com/victor-by-stanley.html

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Robert Tutsky

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#8 posted 07-14-2014 04:01 PM

Thanks Don for the link. Well, it does look to be a Defiance plane, judging from the lateral. The lever cap is also missing a spring, another tell tale. The lever cap is painted blue and is definitely original paint, so maybe it’s prior to ‘52. Anyway, overall it’s in pretty good shape and I am determined to make it work.

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#9 posted 07-14-2014 04:05 PM

The ‘52 was for a Victor, and although they seemed to follow close, The cap on a victor wasn’t painted I don’t think. I’d lean toward the Defiance based on the second photo of the lateral.

Either brand were made halfway decent and can be good users.

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#10 posted 07-14-2014 05:07 PM

Had a Victor come through the shop awhile back

as it came in the mail

and after a bit of clean up

I did have a Defiance, but it was a LOT older version, the one with no frog.

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