To All Lumberjocks - Please accept my apology.

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Forum topic by Scootles posted 07-11-2014 09:55 PM 1245 views 0 times favorited 9 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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07-11-2014 09:55 PM

My recent behavior has been out of line on here. I would like to formally apologize to each and every one of you whom I have offended. I am posting this out of my own will and have not been influenced nor contacted by any of the forum admin/moderators which would lead me to write this.

Today I received a message from a fellow LJ. I made a comment on a project of his a few days ago that was entirely sarcastic and not meant to offend but I can see how it did. He responded with:

”Scootles, Good catch! I guess I should have been a little clearer all the joinery was completed using the Festool Domino. The other tools used were a table saw, miter saw, router my dust collector oh and I believe that i also used my random orbit sander and some sandpaper. I think that is everything…

oh and some glue.

Hope that helps.

I took a look at your profile to see some of your projects for inspiration but alas there are none. Perhaps it would help to not just comment on things but to actually post some finished projects. To let folks see that you are not just a witty fellow that posts comments but doesn’t actually build anything.

With all due respect.

I did not respond. I’m not sure why. I may have been busy, sometimes I read these posts on my cell phone and I find it a pain in the ass responding sometimes from there.

Today, I received another message from him. As far as I know it was for no reason. However, any number of my horrible posts could have enraged him to do so. He said:

SUBJECT: you are useless

“you are moron who only does negative posts you have no projects of your own posted and i imagine that you do not even own any tools or do any working. you sir SICKEN ME”

My response is not only for him, but for the entire LJ community.

”I appreciate your input. I am honored that you went out of your way to express your feelings for me.

I do not have any projects listed because I do not have any that I deem worthy. However, since you have brought this up. I will make it a point to put up pictures of some of my work before the day is over. Please do take a look at it. I love the Mission style office furniture you made. It is very simple, and elegant at the same time. I look forward to seeing more from you.

In response to my negativity, you are correct. It seems that most of my posts are negative. Not just on this forum, but on others as well. After my recent outburst on here I have set a goal to maintain my composure while responding to posts and if I don’t have anything nice to say, I will not say anything at all.

I am a ‘sarcastic wiseass’ at heart. Unfortunately, not many people understand that about me and become easily offended. I also voice my opinions VERY strongly. I will try to refrain from that in the future. Thank you for pointing out that I have been out of line.

Please forgive me.

I hope the people who I have offended can forgive me. If you can’t, I completely understand and hold nothing against that.


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Bill White

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#1 posted 07-11-2014 10:23 PM

I guess that my response would be to think first, answer last.
Though I’m not the target of your response, I applaud your apology.
Go forward with regard to all.


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Rick Dennington

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#2 posted 07-11-2014 11:01 PM

Ok….I haven’t been on here very much lately, so I have no clue what’s going on…...But… sounds like someone is very pissed about something…...Oh well…...

-- " At my age, happy hour is a crap and a nap".....!!

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#3 posted 07-12-2014 12:00 AM

At my kid’s school they have a sign on the wall that says:

When you make a mistake, do three things: 1) Admit it. 2) Apologize. 3) Don’t repeat it.

Each one is a little harder than the last, and number three requires the rest of your life to “complete”. I’ve always tried to allow an honest apology to put a matter to rest, as long as doesn’t happen again. Everybody screws up, not everybody admits it.

-- Quote from ebay tool listing: " Has nicks and dings wear and tear dust and dirt rust and pitting but in good working condition"

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#4 posted 07-12-2014 12:19 AM

Scootles, Written sarcasm just doesn’t work. Face to face, most people will recognize the sarcasm. I catch myself quite often starting to write something sarcastic. When I do, I bite my tongue and delete what I started. Hopefully you learned something.

-- Art, Pittsburgh.

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#5 posted 07-12-2014 12:22 AM

+1 Picklehead. Well said.

Scootles, my hat’s off to you for getting to #2. Reading through a recent thread you were on it looks like a few others in that conversation may still be working on #1. Now, I say let’s all get back to woodworking so we can post a few new projects! :)

-- "I'm not afraid of heights. I'm afraid of widths." - Steven Wright

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Clint Searl

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#6 posted 07-12-2014 01:08 AM

Sarcasm is often justified ( and fun, to boot), especially when directed at self-puffery or social correctness.

-- Clint Searl....Ya can no more do what ya don't know how than ya can git back from where ya ain't been

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#7 posted 07-12-2014 02:42 PM

Art (Bogeyguy) has said what I’ve said many times. You cannot detect TONE OF VOICE in the written word. This means that unfortunately, when people read what you write, their mind may emphasize DIFFERENT words than you intended to if you were speaking aloud to them.

Read this sentence that I’ve written several times. See if the meaning might be construed different if you emphasize a different word (as I’ve bolded different words in each variation)

1. I found a broken bottle.
2. I found a BROKEN bottle.
3. I found a broken BOTTLE.
4. I FOUND a broken bottle.

The first is just a generic statement. In each of the other variations, your mind will subconsciously emphasize the bolded word and the emphasis will be put on a different aspect of that same “generic” statement.

Now imagine if you are talking face to face with someone and use tone of voice, they could HEAR which word you have emphasized and whatever you are saying could have a different meaning than if you sent them a note and they could NOT hear your tone of voice.

That’s a BIG ass lathe!
That’s a big ASS lathe!
That’s a big ass LATHE!

Oh, and dont get me started about things like There, They’re, and Their … GRRRRRRR

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Gene Howe

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#8 posted 07-12-2014 03:54 PM

Your attempt at sarcasm may not have been a class act but your apology certainly was!
My hat’s off to you.
Like Bogeyguy, I too must often bite my tongue and delete.
Guys who can pull off printed sarcasm (Mark Twain comes to mind) have my admiration.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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Bob Kassmeyer

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#9 posted 07-12-2014 04:28 PM

Scootles, I generally do not respond if I feel even the least bit sarcastic. I got taken to task to it the first time I did. The person did it in a private message which I greatly appreciate. It is good that you have recognized in yourself that you do it. As Gene said your apology is a class act. I too need to post more projects, I don’t feel most are worth doing and don’t probably more my being lazy then anything else.

-- Bob Kassmeyer, Nebraska

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