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Forum topic by Andre posted 07-08-2014 07:45 PM 7956 views 0 times favorited 13 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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07-08-2014 07:45 PM

Trying to decide between the Laguna 14-12 or the Rikon 10-325? I have an old Delta 14” 3/4 hp with only 6” resaw so looking for something with just a little more power and Resaw height. seems all the stuff I want to cut is just a little to big 7 to 8 in. Have to stay with 110V, so that eliminates most of the Grizzly stuff which is a hassle to get here anyways. Which saw is the better of the two? Anyone have any problems with either saw?

-- Lifting one end of the plank.

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#1 posted 07-08-2014 07:50 PM

I don’t have an opinion on either as I’ve never used either one.

Have you thought about getting a 6” riser block for your delta? would bring your re saw capacity to 12” without having to buy a new saw.


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#2 posted 07-09-2014 12:29 AM

I have a rikon 10-325 and I love it.

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#3 posted 07-09-2014 12:55 AM

If I were to get one, and I could afford either, I would probably get the Laguna. The trunnions (actually, I think it’s a single trunnion) on the rikon does not inspire confidence. Very flimsy looking.

That said, I have not used either.

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#4 posted 07-09-2014 02:23 AM

I wanted the Laguna, kept waiting for one on CL. Hoping for someone to slash the price just a bit more. Then Woodcraft put the Ricon on sale and I pulled the trigger and got the 10-325.
The 10-35 will work well for me but deep down if someone offered to buy it, I would go back and get the Laguna. For now I will use what I have. I like the table on the Laguna, the blade exit from the machine at the front, and the Ricon from the side where the fence is attached. After market fence would have to be removed to change blades. The Laguna was more HP than the 10-325 but I needed a saw that week. Set up was not bad just follow the directions in the order they are in the book. I think the brush on the tire that came with the saw is a bit cheep but I fixed that with my own set of brushes I made up with some spare parts. I had lots of build-up after the first 3 hrs of cutting, and that was with a DC running. I got the job finished with the saw and It paid for its self on that first job. So I am somewhat happy I bought the 10-325 but down deep I still want the Laguna.
Set the amount you can afford to spend on the tool and get what you can afford. Any saw is better than no saw and I have had no trouble with the 10-325.

-- Turning fine wood into sawdust !

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#5 posted 07-09-2014 03:01 AM

Have you looked at the Rikon 10-351?

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#6 posted 07-09-2014 03:13 AM

I’ve got a 10-325 and it’s really served me well. I don’t do much resawing, but when I do, there’s always been plenty of power and it tracks well. Certainly it’s not the greatest bandsaw out there, but at this price point you do get a lot of features (nice beefy frame, blade tension lever, 13” resaw, CI wheels, rather large table). I wouldn’t hesitate to recommend it. Just so you’re informed, my personal complaints about the saw:

  • Adjusting the table so that it’s normal to the back edge of the blade is a colossal PITA. Fortunately I only had to do that the one time after I got it. In nearly 3 years, I haven’t had to adjust it again (perhaps that speaks well of the trunnion?)
  • That light… what moron decided to put it on the back side??
  • Stock dust collection isn’t great since there’s no suction below the table near the lower guides. I got around that pretty easily though by just adding one of those stay-put hoses right below the table. That really helped a lot with dust. I plan on building a shroud around it at some point to make it even better
  • The tension gauge is pretty useless. Don’t think I’ve ever seen a good one on a bandsaw though, and I don’t really use it anyway. You get a feel for proper blade deflection after a while

As you can see, the complaints are pretty minor. Want to state again that I really do like my bandsaw. Also, you may find mixed opinions on the guide bearings. I’ve heard some people not really care for them, and other people rave about them. Personally, I’m probably somewhere in the middle. I really like the thumbwheel adjustment for the upper guide and thrust bearings, however they’re absent for some reason on the lower guide bearings (there is one for the lower thrust bearing). Not a big deal, but it’s an area where they probably shouldn’t have cheaped out, IMO. Once I get them set up for a particular blade, they just do what they’re supposed to and stay where they’re set, so I don’t really think about them again until I change blades.

I don’t have any experience with the Laguna, but after watching the video on their website, it does seem to have more features. Some of what stood out to (relative to the 10-325):

  • The fence looks nice in that it’s taller, but in practice I’m not entirely sure how much of a difference this will make. I suspect you’ll probably end up making your own aux fence for resawing tall materials anyway, since it appears that even in the tall position, it doesn’t quite provide enough support for resawing max height lumber
  • Dust collection appears like it would be better than the 10-325, since it looks to offer collection right below the table as well
  • The location of the light doesn’t appear to have been designed by a moron (however it’s $100 extra. For that $100, you can get a pretty damn nice light to compliment the Rikon and have light coming from the front and back to reduce shadows)
  • The 14-12 motor is rated at 1.75hp, vs 1.5 on the Rikon, however both look to be rated for 14 amps @ 110, so I don’t know if there actually is any difference

The weight of both is nearly identical (Laguna is 7lb heavier at 258lb), and the tables look to be pretty much the same size. Many of the little features that Laguna points out about the are also available on the 10-325, such as dual windows for tracking and tension, rack and pinion upper guide, and the poly groove drive belt. I think that actually speaks well for the value you get out of the Rikon.

Chris208 pointed out the trunnion on the Rikon. The ones on the 14-12 (the Laguna appears to have two, opposed to the single one on the Rikon), certainly appear to be beefier, however I’ve never had an issue with the one on my 10-325 and I’ve never heard of one failing. Even when tilting the table, after it’s locked in position it still feels pretty solid to me. As I mentioned before, I haven’t had to adjust the fore-aft alignment of the table since I’ve had it. Certainly advantage here goes to Laguna, but I really have no idea if there’s any practical differences.

One REALLY big advantage I see for the Rikon though, is a 5 year warranty vs the 1 year on the Laguna.

At MSRP, the Laguna being $1099 and the Rikon being $999, I’d say the Laguna is probably worth the extra $100, however the Rikon frequently goes on sale for between $749-$799. At that point, you’re talking about a $300-$350 difference that could be spent on extra blades and whatnot. I don’t doubt that the Laguna is probably a better bandsaw, but I’m not entirely convinced it’s worth the extra 40%, but that’s a personal decision.

If I had to do it all over again, I’m wouldn’t buy the 10-325 again, but the 14-12 wouldn’t really be in consideration for me either. Reason being is that I now have 220 in my shop whereas before I only had 110. I think I’d spend the extra money and get an 18” unit and while I’m at it also pick up the 10” Rikon for when I’m using a 1/8” blade. But that’s all fairy tale land anyway, right?

Given the limitation of 110, if I were to do I over again, it’s likely that I would still choose the 10-325 over the Laguna, just because of the price differential. Either way you go though, I’m sure you’ll be happy.

One last bit of advice – if you haven’t checked out the Alex Snodgrass videos on Youtube regarding bandsaw setup, definitely do so. Before I did, mine wasn’t setup correctly and I was only getting mediocre results with resawing. Using the single pivot point attachment for the Rikon fence helped a bit, but I was still coping with blade drift. Once I followed his directions, it was a night and day difference. Never use the single pivot point attachement anymore, either use the stock fence or an aux fence and just call it a day. Great, repeatable results every time.

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#7 posted 07-09-2014 02:56 PM

I have the Rikon 10-325 and it has served me well. I agree with TMTOOLMAN’s comments. As a hobbyist I could justify spending hundreds more for the Laguna BS. If cost wasn’t a factor, I would have purchased the Laguna BS. The Rikon 5 year warranty is a great plus. I talked to a Rikon sales guy at the LasVegas woodworking show last year and mentioned some of the features that I thought could be better, such as the poorly positioned light and the fence. My fence was not square to the table. He gave me his business card and email and in a couple weeks I had a new fence arrive in the mail. This was after 1 year of owning the Rikon BS.

-- Julian

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#8 posted 07-09-2014 03:58 PM

I just had my Laguna 14-12 delivered yesterday. I was on the fence between the Rikon and the Laguna. An others have mentioned, the Laguna gives you more features for the money. I was able to get mine 10% off through Wood Werks. That made it $14 cheaper than the Rikon (not on sale). It would be kind of tough call if you are looking at the Rikon when it is on sale for $799 but I would still go with the 14-12. The mobile base and ‘double’ fence were big selling points for me. This is my first ‘real’ band saw, so I am not anywhere close to an expert on them. the 14-12 replaced a Ryobi BS1001 from HD. The difference is night and day. I talked to Jay at Laguna as well as a few guys at a few different Woodcraft stores and voiced concern about the 1 year warranty that gtbuzz mentioned. The consensus was that if something is going to break, it will most likely break in the first year. It seems like as far a the warranty goes, you either pay for the warranty (Rikon) or more tool (Laguna). I can attest to Laguna’s customer service being great. the fence guide bar had some spot rust on it right out of the box. I called their CS and they have one being sent out today. They were very responsive and professional. Hope that helps.


-- Nate, Fredericksburg, VA,

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#9 posted 07-09-2014 04:05 PM

From comments I’ve read, I would go with a Laguna.

That said, if you can swing an 18” or larger band saw, even
an old one, the extra throat comes in real handy when making
templates, notching dust panel corners… stuff like that
which are a snap to do on a band saw when the column
isn’t in the way.

A band saw doesn’t need a lot of power for general
woodworking, though resawing will go faster with a 2hp
or larger motor and for that you’d generally need 220v.

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#10 posted 07-09-2014 04:17 PM

I was considering the same. Went with the Laguna. It’s a nice machine. The price is about the same when I figured I would want to immediately upgrade the guides on the Rikon.

-- Measure it with a micrometer, mark it with chalk, cut it with an axe.

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#11 posted 07-10-2014 02:41 AM

Thanks for all the comments, price is a bit of a point $1250 for the 14-12 or $950 for the 10-325 and the fact that the Laguna is very hard to find around here. Really do not want to go the 220V path and the main reason for the upgrade is bigger table, more resaw and a bit more power. With my old Delta unless everything is perfect she will stall out. The idea of putting a riser block in means an upgrade to the guides and still only have 3/4 hp and small table, not worth it in my opinion time for a new saw. I just got my shaper from Grizzly today which was not that hard so may have to think about one of there saws as well?

-- Lifting one end of the plank.

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#12 posted 11-01-2016 03:44 PM

If I were to get one, and I could afford either, I would probably get the Laguna. The trunnions (actually, I think it s a single trunnion) on the rikon does not inspire confidence. Very flimsy looking.

That said, I have not used either.

- Chris208

I have the Rikon 10-353, said to be a professional saw. The trunnion is poorly designed and poorly made. The geared table tilt is nearly unusable due to interference between the two gears involved.

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#13 posted 11-01-2016 03:58 PM

I have the 340. It would be a real good move up. If you find one used its a consideration.

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!

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